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    <title>Who Might Win McCain&#8217;s Battery Competition? Part I: Firefly</title>
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    <dc:creator>Nick Chambers</dc:creator>
    
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<p><em>Editor&#8217;s note: This post is a lead-in story to the <a title="Gas 2.0 interview with Mil Ovan, SVP and Co-founder of Firefly Energy" href="http://gas2.org/2008/07/01/interview-with-mil-ovan-svp-and-co-founder-of-firefly-energy/" target="_blank">Gas 2.0 interview with Mil Ovan, Senior Vice President and Co-founder of Firefly Energy</a>. </em></p>
<p>Last week John McCain, the presumptive presidential nominee for the 2008 Republican ticket, <a title="Gas 2.0 post about McCain battery competition" href="http://gas2.org/2008/06/23/mccain-proposes-300-million-prize-to-developer-of-super-battery/" target="_blank">suggested that a $300 million government-sponsored competition</a> would be a good way to spur development of next generation battery technologies.</p>
<p>His comments <a title="Link to politicususa post" href="http://www.politicususa.com/en/Obama-Bounty" target="_blank">generated debate in the blogosphere</a> and around the United States. Meanwhile, Barack Obama, the presumptive presidential nominee for the Democratic ticket, <a title="Link to truck trend post" href="http://blogs.trucktrend.com/6261183/industry-news/obama-calls-mccains-300-million-battery-prize-a-gimmick/index.html" target="_blank">called McCain&#8217;s proposal a gimmick</a> suggesting that $300 million was not enough.</p>
<p>Regardless of my feelings about the proposed competition or the candidates themselves, it got me thinking about just who might win it if it were to become a reality. All that thinking led to this post, and, hopefully, to several others that will look at the most promising next generation battery technologies on the horizon.</p>
<p>This week I&#8217;ll start with <a title="Firefly Energy homepage" href="http://www.fireflyenergy.com/" target="_blank">Firefly Energy</a>.</p>
<p><!--more-->Founded in 2003, Firefly has been working on reinvigorating old-hat <a title="Wikipedia entry for lead-acid battery" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_acid_battery" target="_blank">lead-acid battery</a> technology in such a way that it would become brand new and cutting edge once again. On the surface, the concept may seem pretty dull, but digging into it we find that it presents a lot of promise.</p>
<p>Firefly&#8217;s innovation is that they&#8217;ve taken the heavy lead plates you&#8217;d find in a classic lead-acid battery and replaced them with a light carbon-graphite microcell foam that&#8217;s been impregnated with lead.</p>
<p>Key benefits of their first and second generation technology when compared to traditional lead-acid batteries include:</p>
<ul>
<li>up to 70% less lead</li>
<li>up to 50% reduction in weight and size</li>
<li>Much faster recharge and discharge capabilities</li>
<li>Much better cold weather performance</li>
<li>Increased lifetime and durability</li>
</ul>
<p>Two of the main problems associated with traditional lead-acid batteries are <a title="Firefly FAQ on corrosion" href="http://www.fireflyenergy.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=55&amp;Itemid=85" target="_blank">corrosion</a> and <a title="Firefly FAQ on sulfation" href="http://www.fireflyenergy.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=82&amp;Itemid=85" target="_blank">sulfation</a>. Together these are the lead-acid battery&#8217;s Achilles&#8217; heel and the typical reasons they fail. Firefly mitigates these problems by <a title="Firefly FAQ on advantages of microcell foam" href="http://www.fireflyenergy.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=97&amp;Itemid=88" target="_blank">creating a balance between the amount of lead in the battery and the acid electrolyte that flows through the microcell foam</a>.</p>
<p>Firefly&#8217;s technology could make the lead-acid battery truly competitive with other advanced battery chemistries, such as <a title="Wikipedia entry for lithium-ion battery " href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion" target="_blank">lithium-ion</a>, but at a much more affordable price and in a safer package. At the same time, the technology would increase the durability and reliability of the lead-acid battery and address many of the environmental concerns associated with the industry.</p>
<p>Another key benefit of reinvigorating the production of lead-acid batteries in the United States is that it would be a domestic endeavor — meaning that the <a title="USGS Lead information PDF" href="http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/lead/lead_mcs05.pdf" target="_blank">US has lots of lead available (it&#8217;s the third largest producer behind China and Australia</a>; PDF), a robust system in place for <a title="EPA link on batteries" href="http://www.epa.gov/garbage/battery.htm" target="_blank">recycling lead from batteries</a>, and a healthy and capable domestic manufacturing base.</p>
<p>In terms of energy security and recyclability, this beats the pants off of lithium-ion batteries, which depend on <a title="Link to Azom article about lithium production" href="http://www.evworld.com/library/lithium_shortage.pdf" target="_blank">resources from the Far East and South America</a> (PDF) and <a title="Computer world blog on lithium-ion batteries" href="http://blogs.computerworld.com/node/3285" target="_blank">are proving very difficult/costly to recycle</a>.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft alignnone size-full wp-image-668" style="float: left" src="http://gas2.org/files/2008/07/oasis-battery.jpg" alt="Firefly's Oasis battery" width="240" height="201" />Firefly is set to release its first commercial product by Q4 of this year with the introduction of the <a title="Link to Firefly Oasis battery page" href="http://www.fireflyenergy.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=273&amp;Itemid=100" target="_blank">Oasis battery</a> — only available to the trucking industry initially.</p>
<p>While Firefly has no immediate plans to enter the electric vehicle market, they are fully aware of the keen interest their technology has generated among EV enthusiasts and the benefits that their battery technology could provide to the EV market.</p>
<p>I recently had a chance chat with Mil Ovan, Senior Vice President and Co-founder of Firefly, about the company, their take on McCain&#8217;s competition, Firefly&#8217;s battery technology, environmental worries about lead, the Oasis battery, electric vehicles and the company&#8217;s plans for the future.</p>
<p>Rather than try and distill that conversation down to its elements, I thought it was interesting enough to present it in its entirety in a separate post. Click the link below to proceed to that interview.</p>
<h4><a title="Gas 2.0 interview with Mil Ovan, SVP and Co-founder of Firefly Energy" href="http://gas2.org/2008/07/01/interview-with-mil-ovan-svp-and-co-founder-of-firefly-energy/" target="_blank">Interview with Mil Ovan, Senior Vice President and Co-founder of Firefly, June 26th, 2008.</a></h4>
<h3>Posts Related to Batteries, Electric Vehicles, and the Politics of Green:</h3>
<ul>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to McCain Proposes $300 Million Prize to Developer of “Super Battery”" rel="bookmark" href="../2008/06/23/mccain-proposes-300-million-prize-to-developer-of-super-battery/">McCain Proposes $300 Million Prize to Developer of “Super Battery”</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Snapshot of Battery Technology for Plug-in Hybrid Electric Cars" rel="bookmark" href="../2008/05/19/snapshot-of-battery-technology-for-plug-in-hybrid-electric-cars/">Snapshot of Battery Technology for Plug-in Hybrid Electric Cars</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Volkswagen to Produce Plug-In Hybrid Electric Cars in 2010" rel="bookmark" href="../2008/06/30/volkswagen-to-produce-plug-in-hybrid-electric-cars-in-2010/">Volkswagen to Produce Plug-In Hybrid Electric Cars in 2010</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Mercedes, Smart to Sell Electric Cars in 2010" rel="bookmark" href="../2008/06/23/mercedes-smart-to-sell-electric-cars-in-2010/">Mercedes, Smart to Sell Electric Cars in 2010</a></li>
<li><a title="An Electric Car With Style and Smarts" rel="bookmark" href="../2008/06/23/thnk-ox-an-electric-car-with-style-and-smarts/">Th!nk Ox: An Electric Car With Style and Smarts</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Company Turns Familiar Gas Cars Into Electric Vehicles" rel="bookmark" href="../2008/06/17/company-turns-familiar-gas-cars-into-electric-vehicles/">Company Turns Familiar Gas Cars Into Electric Vehicles</a></li>
<li><a title="The $20K TRIAC EV" rel="bookmark" href="../2008/05/27/an-electric-car-you-can-buy-today-the-20k-triac-ev/">An Electric Car You Can Buy Today: The $20K TRIAC EV</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Tesla Roadster Pictures From SF Green [Pics]" rel="bookmark" href="../2008/05/15/tesla-roadster-pictures-from-sf-green-pics/">Tesla Roadster Pictures From SF Green [Pics]</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Sorry Bush, Voters Think Investment in Renewable Energy is the Best Option" rel="bookmark" href="../2008/04/30/sorry-bush-voters-think-investment-in-renewable-energy-is-the-best-option/">Sorry Bush, Voters Think Investment in Renewable Energy is the Best Option</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Senate Republicans Block Windfall Profits Tax on Big Oil Companies" rel="bookmark" href="../2008/06/10/senate-gop-blocks-windfall-profits-tax-on-big-oil/">Senate Republicans Block Windfall Profits Tax on Big Oil Companies</a></li>
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<p>Image Credits: <a title="Firefly home page" href="http://www.fireflyenergy.com" target="_blank">Firefly Energy</a></p>
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Editor's note: This post is a lead-in story to the Gas 2.0 interview with Mil Ovan, Senior Vice President and Co-founder of Firefly Energy [1]. 

Last week John McCain, the presumptive presidential nominee for the 2008 Republican ticket, suggested that a $300 million government-sponsored competition [2] would be a good way to spur development of next generation battery technologies.

His comments generated debate in the blogosphere [3] and around the United States. Meanwhile, Barack Obama, the presumptive presidential nominee for the Democratic ticket, called McCain's proposal a gimmick [4] suggesting that $300 million was not enough.

Regardless of my feelings about the proposed competition or the candidates themselves, it got me thinking about just who might win it if it were to become a reality. All that thinking led to this post, and, hopefully, to several others that will look at the most promising next generation battery technologies on the horizon.

This week I'll start with Firefly Energy [5].

Founded in 2003, Firefly has been working on reinvigorating old-hat lead-acid battery [6] technology in such a way that it would become brand new and cutting edge once again. On the surface, the concept may seem pretty dull, but digging into it we find that it presents a lot of promise.

Firefly's innovation is that they've taken the heavy lead plates you'd find in a classic lead-acid battery and replaced them with a light carbon-graphite microcell foam that's been impregnated with lead.

Key benefits of their first and second generation technology when compared to traditional lead-acid batteries include:

	up to 70% less lead
	up to 50% reduction in weight and size
	Much faster recharge and discharge capabilities
	Much better cold weather performance
	Increased lifetime and durability

Two of the main problems associated with traditional lead-acid batteries are corrosion [7] and sulfation [8]. Together these are the lead-acid battery's Achilles' heel and the typical reasons they fail. Firefly mitigates these problems by creating a balance between the amount of lead in the battery and the acid electrolyte that flows through the microcell foam [9].

Firefly's technology could make the lead-acid battery truly competitive with other advanced battery chemistries, such as lithium-ion [10], but at a much more affordable price and in a safer package. At the same time, the technology would increase the durability and reliability of the lead-acid battery and address many of the environmental concerns associated with the industry.

Another key benefit of reinvigorating the production of lead-acid batteries in the United States is that it would be a domestic endeavor — meaning that the US has lots of lead available (it's the third largest producer behind China and Australia [11]; PDF), a robust system in place for recycling lead from batteries [12], and a healthy and capable domestic manufacturing base.

In terms of energy security and recyclability, this beats the pants off of lithium-ion batteries, which depend on resources from the Far East and South America [13] (PDF) and are proving very difficult/costly to recycle [14].

Firefly is set to release its first commercial product by Q4 of this year with the introduction of the Oasis battery [15] — only available to the trucking industry initially.

While Firefly has no immediate plans to enter the electric vehicle market, they are fully aware of the keen interest their technology has generated among EV enthusiasts and the benefits that their battery technology could provide to the EV market.

I recently had a chance chat with Mil Ovan, Senior Vice President and Co-founder of Firefly, about the company, their take on McCain's competition, Firefly's battery technology, environmental worries about lead, the Oasis battery, electric vehicles and the company's plans for the future.

Rather than try and distill that conversation down to its elements, I thought it was interesting enough to present it in its entirety in a separate post. Click the link below to proceed to that interview.
Interview with Mil Ovan, Senior Vice President and Co-founder of Firefly, June 26th, 2008. [16]
Posts Related to Batteries, Electric Vehicles, and the Politics of Green:

	McCain Proposes $300 Million Prize to Developer of “Super Battery” [17]
	Snapshot of Battery Technology for Plug-in Hybrid Electric Cars [18]
	Volkswagen to Produce Plug-In Hybrid Electric Cars in 2010 [19]
	Mercedes, Smart to Sell Electric Cars in 2010 [20]
	Th!nk Ox: An Electric Car With Style and Smarts [21]
	Company Turns Familiar Gas Cars Into Electric Vehicles [22]
	An Electric Car You Can Buy Today: The $20K TRIAC EV [23]
	Tesla Roadster Pictures From SF Green [Pics] [24]
	Sorry Bush, Voters Think Investment in Renewable Energy is the Best Option [25]
	Senate Republicans Block Windfall Profits Tax on Big Oil Companies [26]

Image Credits: Firefly Energy [27]

[1] http://gas2.org/2008/07/01/interview-with-mil-ovan-svp-and-co-founder-of-firefly-energy/
[2] http://gas2.org/2008/06/23/mccain-proposes-300-million-prize-to-developer-of-super-battery/
[3] http://www.politicususa.com/en/Obama-Bounty
[4] http://blogs.trucktrend.com/6261183/industry-news/obama-calls-mccains-300-million-battery-prize-a-gimmick/index.html
[5] http://www.fireflyenergy.com/
[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_acid_battery
[7] http://www.fireflyenergy.com/index.php?option=com_content&#38;task=view&#38;id=55&#38;Itemid=85
[8] http://www.fireflyenergy.com/index.php?option=com_content&#38;task=view&#38;id=82&#38;Itemid=85
[9] http://www.fireflyenergy.com/index.php?option=com_content&#38;task=view&#38;id=97&#38;Itemid=88
[10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion
[11] http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/lead/lead_mcs05.pdf
[12] http://www.epa.gov/garbage/battery.htm
[13] http://www.evworld.com/library/lithium_shortage.pdf
[14] http://blogs.computerworld.com/node/3285
[15] http://www.fireflyenergy.com/index.php?option=com_content&#38;task=view&#38;id=273&#38;Itemid=100
[16] http://gas2.org/2008/07/01/interview-with-mil-ovan-svp-and-co-founder-of-firefly-energy/
[17] http://gas2.org../2008/06/23/mccain-proposes-300-million-prize-to-developer-of-super-battery/
[18] http://gas2.org../2008/05/19/snapshot-of-battery-technology-for-plug-in-hybrid-electric-cars/
[19] http://gas2.org../2008/06/30/volkswagen-to-produce-plug-in-hybrid-electric-cars-in-2010/
[20] http://gas2.org../2008/06/23/mercedes-smart-to-sell-electric-cars-in-2010/
[21] http://gas2.org../2008/06/23/thnk-ox-an-electric-car-with-style-and-smarts/
[22] http://gas2.org../2008/06/17/company-turns-familiar-gas-cars-into-electric-vehicles/
[23] http://gas2.org../2008/05/27/an-electric-car-you-can-buy-today-the-20k-triac-ev/
[24] http://gas2.org../2008/05/15/tesla-roadster-pictures-from-sf-green-pics/
[25] http://gas2.org../2008/04/30/sorry-bush-voters-think-investment-in-renewable-energy-is-the-best-option/
[26] http://gas2.org../2008/06/10/senate-gop-blocks-windfall-profits-tax-on-big-oil/
[27] http://www.fireflyenergy.com]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>Interview With Mil Ovan, SVP and Co-founder of Firefly Energy</title>
    <link>http://gas2.org/2008/07/01/interview-with-mil-ovan-svp-and-co-founder-of-firefly-energy/</link>
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    <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Nick Chambers</dc:creator>
    
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-666" style="vertical-align: top" src="http://gas2.org/files/2008/07/ff_logo.jpg" alt="Firefly Logo" width="240" height="173" /><em>Editor&#8217;s note: This interview is a companion piece to <a title="Gas 2.0 post about who might win McCain's battery competition" href="http://gas2.org/2008/07/01/who-might-win-mccains-battery-competition-part-i-firefly/" target="_blank">Part I of the Gas 2.0 series about who might win John McCain&#8217;s proposed $300 million dollar battery competition</a> if it were to become reality.</em></p>
<p>Last week John McCain, the presumptive presidential nominee for the 2008 Republican ticket, generated debate by <a title="Gas 2.0 post about McCain battery competition" href="http://gas2.org/2008/06/23/mccain-proposes-300-million-prize-to-developer-of-super-battery/" target="_blank">suggesting that a $300 million government- sponsored competition</a> would be a good way to spur development of next generation battery technologies.</p>
<p>His comments got me thinking about just who might win such a competition it if it were to become reality.</p>
<p><a title="Firefly Energy homepage" href="http://www.fireflyenergy.com/" target="_blank">Firefly Energy</a> is one of the companies that made it to my short list. Founded in 2003, they have been working on reinvigorating old-hat <a title="Wikipedia entry for lead-acid battery" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_acid_battery" target="_blank">lead-acid battery</a> technology in such a way that it would become brand new and cutting edge once again.</p>
<p>Firefly&#8217;s innovation is that they&#8217;ve taken the heavy lead plates you&#8217;d find in a classic lead-acid battery and replaced them with a light carbon-graphite microcell foam that&#8217;s been impregnated with lead.</p>
<p>I recently had a chance chat with Mil Ovan, Senior Vice President and Co-founder of Firefly, about the company, their take on McCain&#8217;s competition, Firefly&#8217;s battery technology, environmental worries about lead, the Oasis battery, electric vehicles and the company&#8217;s plans for the future.</p>
<h3><!--more-->Interview with Mil Ovan, Senior Vice President and Co-founder of Firefly, June 26th, 2008.</h3>
<p><img class="alignleft alignnone size-full wp-image-667" style="float: left" src="http://gas2.org/files/2008/07/mil_ovan.jpg" alt="Mil Ovan , SVP and Co-founder of Firefly Energy" width="240" height="328" /><strong>NC:</strong> What are the core operating principles of Firefly? What drives the company?</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> We are developing a battery technology that reinvigorates a battery chemistry that&#8217;s been around since 1859 — lead-acid. Although traditional lead-acid batteries have been proven safe and are low cost, they suffer from weight issues as well as lifetime issues because they use fairly heavy lead plates on a metal grid. What we&#8217;re doing instead is replacing the lead plates and metal grid with a high surface area, non-corroding, lightweight microcell foam material. Using this technology you can start to realize the true capability of the chemistry and overcome some of those limitations I mentioned by not having to use all that lead in the battery.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> I&#8217;ve read that Firefly started as a part of the company Caterpillar. Is Firefly still a subsidiary of Caterpillar?</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> No. The technology was spun off from Caterpillar. Firefly was created as a separate company with separate funding and was founded on May 1st, 2003.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> As you know, one of the main reasons we got interested in having this conversation was because of John McCain&#8217;s recent proposal to hold a competition to see who could come up with the most advanced next generation battery technology. If McCain&#8217;s $300 million battery competition were to become reality, what would give Firefly the edge to win it?</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> First of all I&#8217;d like to say that whatever party is offering solutions that involve expediting development of next generation batteries, we&#8217;re all for that. The government has spent hundreds of millions of dollars a year on fuel cell development and we&#8217;re still probably as far away from fuel cells as we were ten years ago when they said it would be ten years before we see them widely deployed. We see the shift coming towards the realization that fuel cells are still going to take at least another ten years and that battery technology is of paramount importance.</p>
<p>Right now the world of advanced batteries and research is primarily in the far east, most notably in China. In one sense, while we want to electrify vehicles and reduce our nation&#8217;s dependance on foreign oil and the national security risks that represents, we&#8217;re in essence kind of trading one energy security risk for another because the majority of the lithium-ion batteries come from China. Firefly&#8217;s goal is to reinvigorate the vast base of lead-acid battery manufacturers in the US and enable them and their customers to enjoy greater performance without necessarily getting the resources of the less safe, higher priced, advanced batteries that come from the far east.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> I hear where you&#8217;re coming from on fuel cells. I remember about 20 years ago I read an article in Popular Science about how hydrogen fuel cells were going to be widely available within the decade. That was 20 years ago. Today they&#8217;re still saying that hydrogen fuel cells will be available within the decade. It&#8217;s easy to get pessimistic about fuel cells given that environment.</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> Yeah. The thoughts about lithium-ion technology right now are similar to how fuel cells have evolved over time. People are saying &#8220;yeah, it&#8217;s expensive&#8221; and &#8220;yeah, it&#8217;s not as safe as it needs to be,&#8221; but there&#8217;s a lot of money being thrown into it and a lot of smart people. Well, take out the word lithium-ion and replace it with fuel cell and it&#8217;s the same phrases that have been uttered about fuel cells for some time now. We think we are unique in that we have a very practical means of gaining better battery performance and getting that right equation of safety, cost, run-time, size, weight, and life that has eluded many in the past. On one end of the extreme you have companies liking lead-acid&#8217;s low cost but hating its life and weight issues, and at the other extreme liking lithium-ion and nickel-metal hydride for their small footprint and light weight, but hating its ten-times cost penalty and safety and thermal challenges.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> So, McCain thinks his plan is a good idea, Obama says its a gimmick. Obviously both of them are interested in spurring next generation technologies. Do you think something like McCain&#8217;s plan is a good idea, or is it a gimmick? If you think it would spur innovation, do you think $300 million is enough?</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> One has to look at the specifics of the proposal to weigh in and determine whether it&#8217;s a practical idea or not. Without knowing the details — I haven&#8217;t seen them yet — I&#8217;m not going to comment on whether that particular plan is a good one.</p>
<p>In general government support of advanced research on batteries is a good thing because the stock market doesn&#8217;t support long term investments in capital in research — they&#8217;re more interested in quarterly results — and certainly venture capitalists aren&#8217;t patient enough to see multimillion dollar research evolve. A lot of venture capitalist jumped into investing in fuel cells only to see the payback be much longer than they expected.</p>
<p>It is a role of our government to enable basic research because, frankly, our country is being outspent in battery research by China, Japan and Korea.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> Shifting gears now&#8230; What is the microcell foam made of?</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> There&#8217;s a variety of materials we can choose from including graphite and carbon.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> Graphite is a pretty fragile compound. Is there a way you&#8217;ve gotten around that limitation in your battery to increase the durability?</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> The way in which we reinforce the underlying foam is part of the intellectual property of Firefly, and part of those reinforcement methods are patented and some are trade secrets.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> Okay, we&#8217;ll leave it at that I guess. Inside the battery, is the lead bonded to the foam?</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> Yeah. In a regular lead-acid battery, for lack of a better term, you plop the chemistry on top of the lead metal grid and then you press onto that the plate and that&#8217;s a two-dimensional grid structure. In contrast, in the Firefly foam approach the chemistry is washed into the pores of the foam so that now you have a three-dimensional surface area that you can take advantage of and the electrolyte then is in much tighter proximity within the pores of the foam to the chemistry that is in the walls of that foam. Now your ability to recharge and discharge the battery is greatly increased and particularly in cold weather it becomes an advantage.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> How long would you expect the Firefly battery to last versus a traditional lead-acid battery or versus a lithium-ion?</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> The answer on all of these things is &#8216;it depends.&#8217; I&#8217;ve been in the battery industry 5 years now and I&#8217;ve come to learn the phrase &#8220;there are liars, damn liars and battery companies.&#8221; As a policy, in the public forum, we don&#8217;t make claims that &#8216;hey our battery can achieve this level of watt hours per kilogram and watt hours per liter&#8217; because it really is dependent on solving a complex set of calculations in terms of cost, safety, runtime, weight, volume, and temperature concerns. So these types of things really depends on the application.</p>
<p>Take an uninterruptible power supply (UPS) example. Envision a room full of lead-acid batteries providing power backup for a data center of a major corporation. Under a fast discharge of five minutes — say power goes out at the facility and before the generator kicks in — the batteries are invoked and over the course of a five minute discharge, that battery is drained. The problem with a classic lead-acid battery, is that under very fast discharges it can supply the power you need, but it requires a room&#8217;s full of batteries to do it. In contrast, the high surface area of Firefly microcell foam batteries can accomplish that same five minute discharge in half a room&#8217;s worth of batteries. So what does this mean practically? It&#8217;s at least half the weight and half the volume of classic lead-acid battery technology. So the implications beyond that would include that there&#8217;s less shipping, less installation, less cabling required, less floor space taken up, and less air conditioning. The benefits really multiply in just that one example alone.</p>
<p>Another example is the Army. We&#8217;re working on a prototype battery for military tank applications. The Army says &#8220;we&#8217;re not interested in size reduction because this Bradley tank has a battery tray and cables already wired with set specifications.&#8221; It&#8217;s a 40-ton vehicle so weight reduction is nice to have, but it&#8217;s not critical. The idea is to just stuff as much runtime as you can into this thing. So in that example we&#8217;re not delivering any size savings, but were greatly improving upon watt-hours per liter of the current lead-acid batteries. So, all that is a long-winded way of telling you that it&#8217;s a complicated answer.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> What kinds of reductions do you find in the amount of lead used in the Firefly batteries when compared to classic lead-acid batteries?</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> I believe on our website there&#8217;s <a title="Firefly white paper" href="http://www.fireflyenergy.com/images/stories/pdfs/white%20paper%204.25.08.pdf" target="_blank">a trucking industry white paper</a> (PDF), and in there we go into a description of how much lead per battery is in a Firefly battery versus a standard battery. The other factor to consider is that a battery is going to last several times longer than a regular lead-acid battery, so the amount of lead used in the mission, in this case powering a truck over several years instead of over one year, means that the effective lead reduction is several fold. That&#8217;s how we like to portray the lead reduction.</p>
<p>Now we have two technologies. The first one we call <a href="http://www.fireflyenergy.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=205&amp;Itemid=89" target="_blank">3D</a>, which involves the replacement of the negative lead metal grids in a classic lead-acid battery with a microcell foam. The positive lead metal grids as well as the overall interconnecting strap that connects the cells within that battery are still lead. The second generation of our technology that we&#8217;re also working on is called <a href="http://www.fireflyenergy.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=60&amp;Itemid=89" target="_blank">3D2</a>, and that replaces all of the lead metal in the battery with the foam material. The amount of lead savings can range from 50% to 70% depending on which technology were talking about. The true effective reduction in lead depends on the application.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re about to commercialize a battery for the world of highway trucks called Oasis. The reason why we named it Oasis is because, when you think about it, what does a sleeper cab represent to trucker that&#8217;s just finished a ten hour hour drive and he&#8217;s pulling into a truck stop in the middle of August and it&#8217;s 95 degrees out? Well that sleeper cab is a sanctuary or refuge or, as we like to call it, an oasis. With the anti-idling legislation that is starting to sweep the country requiring that, for example in California you need to shut off your truck engine for a portion of every hour, how are they going to run all of their hotel loads — microwave ovens, TVs and the like? It&#8217;s going to put a tremendous strain on current lead-acid batteries which are primarily used for starting the truck, not for runtime support.</p>
<p>Besides requirements due to anti-idling legislation, since January prices for diesel have gone from $3 to over $5 per gallon. If you&#8217;re idling your engine 8 hours a night times $5 per gallon — because that&#8217;s about how much is consumed per hour when you&#8217;re idling the main engine — times 5 days per week times 52 weeks per year, you can see how incredibly expensive idling your truck becomes. In response, Firefly has developed this long runtime battery in the classic group 31 battery footprint and we think it is going to enable fuel savings as well as pollution reduction as a result — and give the trucker the kind of performance he needs in order to drive effectively.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re also pursuing a strategic marketing relationship with a company called Bergstrom, which makes a battery powered supplemental air conditioning system, so that indeed you can turn off the engine and the driver can turn on this supplemental battery powered air conditioning system in the sleeper cab and the driver can have a comfortable night&#8217;s rest running on battery power.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> My brother is a trucker, so I&#8217;m familiar with those laws. There&#8217;s another strategy in the preliminary stages I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re aware of in truck stops where they are putting in these supplemental power units and air conditioning attachments, but you have to have your truck specially outfitted to take advantage of that&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> Well, yeah, and you have to also find a place that has that special equipment and, you know, it&#8217;s not ubiquitous of course, so it&#8217;s not a solution that&#8217;s going to make a big dent in the trucking problems we&#8217;re facing today.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> And I&#8217;d say that most truckers don&#8217;t actually spend every night at truck stops, they spend the night on the side of the road&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> &#8230;Right, along the highway on an exit.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> In terms of the Oasis, and maybe any other future products, obviously there&#8217;s going to be a premium charged for the technology. What&#8217;s the premium you expect to charge for the Oasis over a traditional lead-acid battery?</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> Well, if you look at the spectrum of choices available to a trucker for group 31 lead-acid batteries, they could buy an inexpensive flooded lead-acid battery for anywhere from 80 to 100 bucks, and if you went to the next tier of quality lead-acid batteries it would be a valve-regulated lead-acid battery, or VRLA battery, and that would be around $280 for one battery. We haven&#8217;t announced prices yet, but we&#8217;ll probably be somewhere around $400 per battery. From a cycles per dollar perspective, that being how many times can you run it before you have to replace it given that it&#8217;s a heavy cycling application, we think that on a cycles per dollar basis it&#8217;s cheaper than both of the traditional battery choices I mentioned. Certainly, in the view of battery powered air conditioning systems and the like and being able to turn your engine off and not use fuel idling, the payback would be less than a year.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> So you&#8217;ve got the Oasis, there&#8217;s some buzz going about that — but future products? Obviously, from our readership there&#8217;s going to be a huge interest about electric vehicles. So the next questions are going to be about just that. I don&#8217;t know how much you&#8217;ll be able to answer about it because you haven&#8217;t even gone there yet, but I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve talked with some companies or interested parties that are out there. In general, when you&#8217;re talking about electric vehicles, what sorts of benefits does your technology hold over lithium-ion?</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> Well, I think that before I answer that question I would say that if you look to the GM EV1, it was deployed in California and Arizona. Why? Because it had a 60 mile range due to the limitations of the traditional lead-acid batteries that it had. But, were you to drive it in the depths of winter in Detroit, you would have an 8 mile range. That&#8217;s because in a classic lead-acid battery it&#8217;s capacity falls as the temperature falls. So at minus 20 degrees centigrade you would only have 10-15% of what you would have at 30 degrees centigrade — which would be 100% of your battery capacity. In contrast, with the microcell foam Firefly technology you would have about 60% of your maximum battery capacity at minus 20 degrees centigrade.</p>
<p>So what does that mean? First of all it means lead-acid electric vehicles can become more practical across the nation not just specific to a modest temperature or a modest climate like in California. So that&#8217;s one advantage. Secondly, lithium-ion and nickel metal hydride batteries have certain issues in terms of capabilities in both cold and hot temperature extremes that are limitations. Third, in particular, if you look at nickel metal hydride batteries they have a very high self discharge rate and so if you left your electric vehicle standing without charging it for a week you&#8217;d see a fairly significant drop off in capacity.</p>
<p>The Firefly battery has an incredibly low self discharge rate even compared to a traditional lead-acid battery which is already the best among the various chemistries in terms of slow self discharge rates. Even the first generation of our technology, 3D, probably would be the best lead-acid battery out there in terms of fitting with an EV for those few reasons I mentioned. But we think that the real promise, in terms of the world of EVs will come from our second generation technology, 3D2, where we&#8217;ll be able to make pretty significant inroads in terms of weight and size reduction and making it competitive to lithium-ion. Because in today&#8217;s world of lead-acid EVs, as you know, you&#8217;re spending a fair amount of energy just pushing the lead down the road.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> Not to mention that it&#8217;s lead and people are always going to have environmental concerns about the process of making lead and the chances for it to contaminate the environment. But after reading through your website, Firefly seems to have a good argument for why lead is actually a better choice than lithium-ion when it comes to the environment because there&#8217;s a vast recycling program already available in the United States&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> Yeah, people don&#8217;t talk about that with these other chemistries. It is very expensive to reclaim the metal in a lithium-ion or nickel metal hydride battery and lead-acid has a far better recycling rate than aluminum bottles — over 90% of lead-acid batteries are recycled — and there&#8217;s no change required in the recycling infrastructure to reclaim the Firefly batteries.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> So, there are going to be a lot of people who will ask &#8220;when can I get a hold of a Firefly battery to put it in my electric car?&#8221; What would you say to that?</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> We get that all the time&#8230;. all the time. I mean, there is no one more passionate about seeking better battery solutions than the EV aficionado. That&#8217;s for sure. They&#8217;ve been continuously eager to get a hold of our battery. As a start up, however, I hope your readers can appreciate that there&#8217;s only so much time we have on our investment capital, so we have to get to market with some major customers first and so we&#8217;re working with some major companies and we&#8217;re also working with the US Army.</p>
<p>Out of that work I would hope that there could come variants that would allow Firefly to offer a lead-acid battery for the EV crowd that represents a new standard for performance capabilities for those that are looking to put lead-acid batteries in their converted vehicles. But there are also other types of EVs ranging from scooters to three wheel and four wheel vehicles and neighborhood electric vehicles and the like.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s a question of finding what&#8217;s best and making it all fit. What&#8217;s the ideal distribution structure that would allow us to get those batteries out to that audience? What would be your advice if I were to sort of turn the tables on you? What vehicle do you think this would be best for in terms of type of electric vehicle? Or do you just offer it up for sale and let the EV world grab it and adapt it as they would for their application?</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> Well, that&#8217;s a good question. I think that once you start digging into it, there are a huge amount of home EV tinkerers, especially in the west. There are organizations like the <a title="Seattle Electric Vehicle Association home page" href="http://www.seattleeva.org/wiki/Main_Page" target="_blank">Seattle Electric Vehicle Association</a>. It might be that you could establish connections with those groups. You know, even the Oasis battery that you are selling to truckers, they might want to tinker with that. That might be a place to start and establish a relationship.</p>
<p>But, I don&#8217;t know, I see what your problem is. It&#8217;s an issue of chicken and egg. Nonetheless, I think from all the research I&#8217;ve been doing and the comments I&#8217;ve seen — and I&#8217;m probably biased because I&#8217;m in the thick of it — I think that in the next 2 to 3 years I would imagine there would be a big enough market of electric vehicles for you to start considering actually developing batteries specifically for that market. Anyway, if you were to develop a battery for EVs, this 3D2 technology, how far off is that really?</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> I think that probably in 24-36 months we could have a commercial version of our 3D2 technology. Now, I&#8217;m not saying that it would be ready for an EV at that stage because we do have funding from the US Army to develop something for them, but we&#8217;re aiming to commercialize our technology in the next 24-36 months.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> Compared to a lithium-ion battery — these are the last questions by the way, and then I&#8217;ll let you get going because I&#8217;m sure you have better things to do than talk with me — how far might you expect an electric vehicle vehicle powered by your next generation battery to go on one charge and at what kind of speed? Ball park if you can. If you can&#8217;t that&#8217;s fine, but these are going to be the kinds of questions that I get and the better I can answer them, even if they are not set in stone, the better it would be.</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> The problem with lithium is that everybody likes to quote what the innate performance of the single cell is&#8230; you know in terms of watt hours. The problem is that when you put it into a multi-cell task now you&#8217;ve got all these thermal management issues and you&#8217;ve got these safety issues that require controls and all of this safety and thermal management stuff that all adds to the volume and weight of the box which then drags down the performance in terms of range and so on. The fact is that you&#8217;ve got to keep lithium from over-discharging. Therefore you&#8217;re really not using the innate power capability of that single cell as a result.</p>
<p>We get very specific with major customers who say &#8220;here&#8217;s my application, here&#8217;s the performance envelope of that application, and here&#8217;s my favorite battery in this application, how would you compare?&#8221; All I&#8217;m saying is that I don&#8217;t like to throw out a number there because there are so many factors that have to be considered for each application and, in any case, are you talking about a particular climate, are you talking about combined city/highway driving, are you talking about hills involved, you know, what specifics? So I&#8217;m going to have to beg off on answering that question for those reasons.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> Okay, thanks&#8230; and with that I guess I&#8217;ll let you go.</p>
<p><strong>MO:</strong> Thanks Nick. It was good talking with you. I enjoyed your questions.</p>
<p><strong>NC:</strong> Well, thanks very much for taking the time to answer them in such a thorough way.</p>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[Editor's note: This interview is a companion piece to Part I of the Gas 2.0 series about who might win John McCain's proposed $300 million dollar battery competition [1] if it were to become reality.

Last week John McCain, the presumptive presidential nominee for the 2008 Republican ticket, generated debate by suggesting that a $300 million government- sponsored competition [2] would be a good way to spur development of next generation battery technologies.

His comments got me thinking about just who might win such a competition it if it were to become reality.

Firefly Energy [3] is one of the companies that made it to my short list. Founded in 2003, they have been working on reinvigorating old-hat lead-acid battery [4] technology in such a way that it would become brand new and cutting edge once again.

Firefly's innovation is that they've taken the heavy lead plates you'd find in a classic lead-acid battery and replaced them with a light carbon-graphite microcell foam that's been impregnated with lead.

I recently had a chance chat with Mil Ovan, Senior Vice President and Co-founder of Firefly, about the company, their take on McCain's competition, Firefly's battery technology, environmental worries about lead, the Oasis battery, electric vehicles and the company's plans for the future.
Interview with Mil Ovan, Senior Vice President and Co-founder of Firefly, June 26th, 2008.
NC: What are the core operating principles of Firefly? What drives the company?

MO: We are developing a battery technology that reinvigorates a battery chemistry that's been around since 1859 — lead-acid. Although traditional lead-acid batteries have been proven safe and are low cost, they suffer from weight issues as well as lifetime issues because they use fairly heavy lead plates on a metal grid. What we're doing instead is replacing the lead plates and metal grid with a high surface area, non-corroding, lightweight microcell foam material. Using this technology you can start to realize the true capability of the chemistry and overcome some of those limitations I mentioned by not having to use all that lead in the battery.

NC: I've read that Firefly started as a part of the company Caterpillar. Is Firefly still a subsidiary of Caterpillar?

MO: No. The technology was spun off from Caterpillar. Firefly was created as a separate company with separate funding and was founded on May 1st, 2003.

NC: As you know, one of the main reasons we got interested in having this conversation was because of John McCain's recent proposal to hold a competition to see who could come up with the most advanced next generation battery technology. If McCain's $300 million battery competition were to become reality, what would give Firefly the edge to win it?

MO: First of all I'd like to say that whatever party is offering solutions that involve expediting development of next generation batteries, we're all for that. The government has spent hundreds of millions of dollars a year on fuel cell development and we're still probably as far away from fuel cells as we were ten years ago when they said it would be ten years before we see them widely deployed. We see the shift coming towards the realization that fuel cells are still going to take at least another ten years and that battery technology is of paramount importance.

Right now the world of advanced batteries and research is primarily in the far east, most notably in China. In one sense, while we want to electrify vehicles and reduce our nation's dependance on foreign oil and the national security risks that represents, we're in essence kind of trading one energy security risk for another because the majority of the lithium-ion batteries come from China. Firefly's goal is to reinvigorate the vast base of lead-acid battery manufacturers in the US and enable them and their customers to enjoy greater performance without necessarily getting the resources of the less safe, higher priced, advanced batteries that come from the far east.

NC: I hear where you're coming from on fuel cells. I remember about 20 years ago I read an article in Popular Science about how hydrogen fuel cells were going to be widely available within the decade. That was 20 years ago. Today they're still saying that hydrogen fuel cells will be available within the decade. It's easy to get pessimistic about fuel cells given that environment.

MO: Yeah. The thoughts about lithium-ion technology right now are similar to how fuel cells have evolved over time. People are saying "yeah, it's expensive" and "yeah, it's not as safe as it needs to be," but there's a lot of money being thrown into it and a lot of smart people. Well, take out the word lithium-ion and replace it with fuel cell and it's the same phrases that have been uttered about fuel cells for some time now. We think we are unique in that we have a very practical means of gaining better battery performance and getting that right equation of safety, cost, run-time, size, weight, and life that has eluded many in the past. On one end of the extreme you have companies liking lead-acid's low cost but hating its life and weight issues, and at the other extreme liking lithium-ion and nickel-metal hydride for their small footprint and light weight, but hating its ten-times cost penalty and safety and thermal challenges.

NC: So, McCain thinks his plan is a good idea, Obama says its a gimmick. Obviously both of them are interested in spurring next generation technologies. Do you think something like McCain's plan is a good idea, or is it a gimmick? If you think it would spur innovation, do you think $300 million is enough?

MO: One has to look at the specifics of the proposal to weigh in and determine whether it's a practical idea or not. Without knowing the details — I haven't seen them yet — I'm not going to comment on whether that particular plan is a good one.

In general government support of advanced research on batteries is a good thing because the stock market doesn't support long term investments in capital in research — they're more interested in quarterly results — and certainly venture capitalists aren't patient enough to see multimillion dollar research evolve. A lot of venture capitalist jumped into investing in fuel cells only to see the payback be much longer than they expected.

It is a role of our government to enable basic research because, frankly, our country is being outspent in battery research by China, Japan and Korea.

NC: Shifting gears now... What is the microcell foam made of?

MO: There's a variety of materials we can choose from including graphite and carbon.

NC: Graphite is a pretty fragile compound. Is there a way you've gotten around that limitation in your battery to increase the durability?

MO: The way in which we reinforce the underlying foam is part of the intellectual property of Firefly, and part of those reinforcement methods are patented and some are trade secrets.

NC: Okay, we'll leave it at that I guess. Inside the battery, is the lead bonded to the foam?

MO: Yeah. In a regular lead-acid battery, for lack of a better term, you plop the chemistry on top of the lead metal grid and then you press onto that the plate and that's a two-dimensional grid structure. In contrast, in the Firefly foam approach the chemistry is washed into the pores of the foam so that now you have a three-dimensional surface area that you can take advantage of and the electrolyte then is in much tighter proximity within the pores of the foam to the chemistry that is in the walls of that foam. Now your ability to recharge and discharge the battery is greatly increased and particularly in cold weather it becomes an advantage.

NC: How long would you expect the Firefly battery to last versus a traditional lead-acid battery or versus a lithium-ion?

MO: The answer on all of these things is 'it depends.' I've been in the battery industry 5 years now and I've come to learn the phrase "there are liars, damn liars and battery companies." As a policy, in the public forum, we don't make claims that 'hey our battery can achieve this level of watt hours per kilogram and watt hours per liter' because it really is dependent on solving a complex set of calculations in terms of cost, safety, runtime, weight, volume, and temperature concerns. So these types of things really depends on the application.

Take an uninterruptible power supply (UPS) example. Envision a room full of lead-acid batteries providing power backup for a data center of a major corporation. Under a fast discharge of five minutes — say power goes out at the facility and before the generator kicks in — the batteries are invoked and over the course of a five minute discharge, that battery is drained. The problem with a classic lead-acid battery, is that under very fast discharges it can supply the power you need, but it requires a room's full of batteries to do it. In contrast, the high surface area of Firefly microcell foam batteries can accomplish that same five minute discharge in half a room's worth of batteries. So what does this mean practically? It's at least half the weight and half the volume of classic lead-acid battery technology. So the implications beyond that would include that there's less shipping, less installation, less cabling required, less floor space taken up, and less air conditioning. The benefits really multiply in just that one example alone.

Another example is the Army. We're working on a prototype battery for military tank applications. The Army says "we're not interested in size reduction because this Bradley tank has a battery tray and cables already wired with set specifications." It's a 40-ton vehicle so weight reduction is nice to have, but it's not critical. The idea is to just stuff as much runtime as you can into this thing. So in that example we're not delivering any size savings, but were greatly improving upon watt-hours per liter of the current lead-acid batteries. So, all that is a long-winded way of telling you that it's a complicated answer.

NC: What kinds of reductions do you find in the amount of lead used in the Firefly batteries when compared to classic lead-acid batteries?

MO: I believe on our website there's a trucking industry white paper [5] (PDF), and in there we go into a description of how much lead per battery is in a Firefly battery versus a standard battery. The other factor to consider is that a battery is going to last several times longer than a regular lead-acid battery, so the amount of lead used in the mission, in this case powering a truck over several years instead of over one year, means that the effective lead reduction is several fold. That's how we like to portray the lead reduction.

Now we have two technologies. The first one we call 3D [6], which involves the replacement of the negative lead metal grids in a classic lead-acid battery with a microcell foam. The positive lead metal grids as well as the overall interconnecting strap that connects the cells within that battery are still lead. The second generation of our technology that we're also working on is called 3D2 [7], and that replaces all of the lead metal in the battery with the foam material. The amount of lead savings can range from 50% to 70% depending on which technology were talking about. The true effective reduction in lead depends on the application.

We're about to commercialize a battery for the world of highway trucks called Oasis. The reason why we named it Oasis is because, when you think about it, what does a sleeper cab represent to trucker that's just finished a ten hour hour drive and he's pulling into a truck stop in the middle of August and it's 95 degrees out? Well that sleeper cab is a sanctuary or refuge or, as we like to call it, an oasis. With the anti-idling legislation that is starting to sweep the country requiring that, for example in California you need to shut off your truck engine for a portion of every hour, how are they going to run all of their hotel loads — microwave ovens, TVs and the like? It's going to put a tremendous strain on current lead-acid batteries which are primarily used for starting the truck, not for runtime support.

Besides requirements due to anti-idling legislation, since January prices for diesel have gone from $3 to over $5 per gallon. If you're idling your engine 8 hours a night times $5 per gallon — because that's about how much is consumed per hour when you're idling the main engine — times 5 days per week times 52 weeks per year, you can see how incredibly expensive idling your truck becomes. In response, Firefly has developed this long runtime battery in the classic group 31 battery footprint and we think it is going to enable fuel savings as well as pollution reduction as a result — and give the trucker the kind of performance he needs in order to drive effectively.

We're also pursuing a strategic marketing relationship with a company called Bergstrom, which makes a battery powered supplemental air conditioning system, so that indeed you can turn off the engine and the driver can turn on this supplemental battery powered air conditioning system in the sleeper cab and the driver can have a comfortable night's rest running on battery power.

NC: My brother is a trucker, so I'm familiar with those laws. There's another strategy in the preliminary stages I'm sure you're aware of in truck stops where they are putting in these supplemental power units and air conditioning attachments, but you have to have your truck specially outfitted to take advantage of that...

MO: Well, yeah, and you have to also find a place that has that special equipment and, you know, it's not ubiquitous of course, so it's not a solution that's going to make a big dent in the trucking problems we're facing today.

NC: And I'd say that most truckers don't actually spend every night at truck stops, they spend the night on the side of the road...

MO: ...Right, along the highway on an exit.

NC: In terms of the Oasis, and maybe any other future products, obviously there's going to be a premium charged for the technology. What's the premium you expect to charge for the Oasis over a traditional lead-acid battery?

MO: Well, if you look at the spectrum of choices available to a trucker for group 31 lead-acid batteries, they could buy an inexpensive flooded lead-acid battery for anywhere from 80 to 100 bucks, and if you went to the next tier of quality lead-acid batteries it would be a valve-regulated lead-acid battery, or VRLA battery, and that would be around $280 for one battery. We haven't announced prices yet, but we'll probably be somewhere around $400 per battery. From a cycles per dollar perspective, that being how many times can you run it before you have to replace it given that it's a heavy cycling application, we think that on a cycles per dollar basis it's cheaper than both of the traditional battery choices I mentioned. Certainly, in the view of battery powered air conditioning systems and the like and being able to turn your engine off and not use fuel idling, the payback would be less than a year.

NC: So you've got the Oasis, there's some buzz going about that — but future products? Obviously, from our readership there's going to be a huge interest about electric vehicles. So the next questions are going to be about just that. I don't know how much you'll be able to answer about it because you haven't even gone there yet, but I'm sure you've talked with some companies or interested parties that are out there. In general, when you're talking about electric vehicles, what sorts of benefits does your technology hold over lithium-ion?

MO: Well, I think that before I answer that question I would say that if you look to the GM EV1, it was deployed in California and Arizona. Why? Because it had a 60 mile range due to the limitations of the traditional lead-acid batteries that it had. But, were you to drive it in the depths of winter in Detroit, you would have an 8 mile range. That's because in a classic lead-acid battery it's capacity falls as the temperature falls. So at minus 20 degrees centigrade you would only have 10-15% of what you would have at 30 degrees centigrade — which would be 100% of your battery capacity. In contrast, with the microcell foam Firefly technology you would have about 60% of your maximum battery capacity at minus 20 degrees centigrade.

So what does that mean? First of all it means lead-acid electric vehicles can become more practical across the nation not just specific to a modest temperature or a modest climate like in California. So that's one advantage. Secondly, lithium-ion and nickel metal hydride batteries have certain issues in terms of capabilities in both cold and hot temperature extremes that are limitations. Third, in particular, if you look at nickel metal hydride batteries they have a very high self discharge rate and so if you left your electric vehicle standing without charging it for a week you'd see a fairly significant drop off in capacity.

The Firefly battery has an incredibly low self discharge rate even compared to a traditional lead-acid battery which is already the best among the various chemistries in terms of slow self discharge rates. Even the first generation of our technology, 3D, probably would be the best lead-acid battery out there in terms of fitting with an EV for those few reasons I mentioned. But we think that the real promise, in terms of the world of EVs will come from our second generation technology, 3D2, where we'll be able to make pretty significant inroads in terms of weight and size reduction and making it competitive to lithium-ion. Because in today's world of lead-acid EVs, as you know, you're spending a fair amount of energy just pushing the lead down the road.

NC: Not to mention that it's lead and people are always going to have environmental concerns about the process of making lead and the chances for it to contaminate the environment. But after reading through your website, Firefly seems to have a good argument for why lead is actually a better choice than lithium-ion when it comes to the environment because there's a vast recycling program already available in the United States...

MO: Yeah, people don't talk about that with these other chemistries. It is very expensive to reclaim the metal in a lithium-ion or nickel metal hydride battery and lead-acid has a far better recycling rate than aluminum bottles — over 90% of lead-acid batteries are recycled — and there's no change required in the recycling infrastructure to reclaim the Firefly batteries.

NC: So, there are going to be a lot of people who will ask "when can I get a hold of a Firefly battery to put it in my electric car?" What would you say to that?

MO: We get that all the time.... all the time. I mean, there is no one more passionate about seeking better battery solutions than the EV aficionado. That's for sure. They've been continuously eager to get a hold of our battery. As a start up, however, I hope your readers can appreciate that there's only so much time we have on our investment capital, so we have to get to market with some major customers first and so we're working with some major companies and we're also working with the US Army.

Out of that work I would hope that there could come variants that would allow Firefly to offer a lead-acid battery for the EV crowd that represents a new standard for performance capabilities for those that are looking to put lead-acid batteries in their converted vehicles. But there are also other types of EVs ranging from scooters to three wheel and four wheel vehicles and neighborhood electric vehicles and the like.

So it's a question of finding what's best and making it all fit. What's the ideal distribution structure that would allow us to get those batteries out to that audience? What would be your advice if I were to sort of turn the tables on you? What vehicle do you think this would be best for in terms of type of electric vehicle? Or do you just offer it up for sale and let the EV world grab it and adapt it as they would for their application?

NC: Well, that's a good question. I think that once you start digging into it, there are a huge amount of home EV tinkerers, especially in the west. There are organizations like the Seattle Electric Vehicle Association [8]. It might be that you could establish connections with those groups. You know, even the Oasis battery that you are selling to truckers, they might want to tinker with that. That might be a place to start and establish a relationship.

But, I don't know, I see what your problem is. It's an issue of chicken and egg. Nonetheless, I think from all the research I've been doing and the comments I've seen — and I'm probably biased because I'm in the thick of it — I think that in the next 2 to 3 years I would imagine there would be a big enough market of electric vehicles for you to start considering actually developing batteries specifically for that market. Anyway, if you were to develop a battery for EVs, this 3D2 technology, how far off is that really?

MO: I think that probably in 24-36 months we could have a commercial version of our 3D2 technology. Now, I'm not saying that it would be ready for an EV at that stage because we do have funding from the US Army to develop something for them, but we're aiming to commercialize our technology in the next 24-36 months.

NC: Compared to a lithium-ion battery — these are the last questions by the way, and then I'll let you get going because I'm sure you have better things to do than talk with me — how far might you expect an electric vehicle vehicle powered by your next generation battery to go on one charge and at what kind of speed? Ball park if you can. If you can't that's fine, but these are going to be the kinds of questions that I get and the better I can answer them, even if they are not set in stone, the better it would be.

MO: The problem with lithium is that everybody likes to quote what the innate performance of the single cell is... you know in terms of watt hours. The problem is that when you put it into a multi-cell task now you've got all these thermal management issues and you've got these safety issues that require controls and all of this safety and thermal management stuff that all adds to the volume and weight of the box which then drags down the performance in terms of range and so on. The fact is that you've got to keep lithium from over-discharging. Therefore you're really not using the innate power capability of that single cell as a result.

We get very specific with major customers who say "here's my application, here's the performance envelope of that application, and here's my favorite battery in this application, how would you compare?" All I'm saying is that I don't like to throw out a number there because there are so many factors that have to be considered for each application and, in any case, are you talking about a particular climate, are you talking about combined city/highway driving, are you talking about hills involved, you know, what specifics? So I'm going to have to beg off on answering that question for those reasons.

NC: Okay, thanks... and with that I guess I'll let you go.

MO: Thanks Nick. It was good talking with you. I enjoyed your questions.

NC: Well, thanks very much for taking the time to answer them in such a thorough way.
Posts Related to Batteries, Electric Vehicles, and the Politics of Green:

	McCain Proposes $300 Million Prize to Developer of “Super Battery” [9]
	Snapshot of Battery Technology for Plug-in Hybrid Electric Cars [10]
	Volkswagen to Produce Plug-In Hybrid Electric Cars in 2010 [11]
	Mercedes, Smart to Sell Electric Cars in 2010 [12]
	Th!nk Ox: An Electric Car With Style and Smarts [13]
	Company Turns Familiar Gas Cars Into Electric Vehicles [14]
	An Electric Car You Can Buy Today: The $20K TRIAC EV [15]
	Tesla Roadster Pictures From SF Green [Pics] [16]
	Sorry Bush, Voters Think Investment in Renewable Energy is the Best Option [17]
	Senate Republicans Block Windfall Profits Tax on Big Oil Companies [18]

Image Credits: Firefly Energy [19]

[1] http://gas2.org/2008/07/01/who-might-win-mccains-battery-competition-part-i-firefly/
[2] http://gas2.org/2008/06/23/mccain-proposes-300-million-prize-to-developer-of-super-battery/
[3] http://www.fireflyenergy.com/
[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_acid_battery
[5] http://www.fireflyenergy.com/images/stories/pdfs/white%20paper%204.25.08.pdf
[6] http://www.fireflyenergy.com/index.php?option=com_content&#38;task=view&#38;id=205&#38;Itemid=89
[7] http://www.fireflyenergy.com/index.php?option=com_content&#38;task=view&#38;id=60&#38;Itemid=89
[8] http://www.seattleeva.org/wiki/Main_Page
[9] http://gas2.org../2008/06/23/mccain-proposes-300-million-prize-to-developer-of-super-battery/
[10] http://gas2.org../2008/05/19/snapshot-of-battery-technology-for-plug-in-hybrid-electric-cars/
[11] http://gas2.org../2008/06/30/volkswagen-to-produce-plug-in-hybrid-electric-cars-in-2010/
[12] http://gas2.org../2008/06/23/mercedes-smart-to-sell-electric-cars-in-2010/
[13] http://gas2.org../2008/06/23/thnk-ox-an-electric-car-with-style-and-smarts/
[14] http://gas2.org../2008/06/17/company-turns-familiar-gas-cars-into-electric-vehicles/
[15] http://gas2.org../2008/05/27/an-electric-car-you-can-buy-today-the-20k-triac-ev/
[16] http://gas2.org../2008/05/15/tesla-roadster-pictures-from-sf-green-pics/
[17] http://gas2.org../2008/04/30/sorry-bush-voters-think-investment-in-renewable-energy-is-the-best-option/
[18] http://gas2.org../2008/06/10/senate-gop-blocks-windfall-profits-tax-on-big-oil/
[19] http://www.fireflyenergy.com/]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>Low Impact Living: Hypermiling &#8212; My Mileage is Better than Your Mileage</title>
    <link>http://gas2.org/2008/06/11/low-impact-living-hypermiling-my-mileage-is-better-than-your-mileage/</link>
    <comments>http://gas2.org/2008/06/11/low-impact-living-hypermiling-my-mileage-is-better-than-your-mileage/#comments</comments>
    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Low Impact Living</dc:creator>
    
		<category><![CDATA[Cars]]></category>

		<category><![CDATA[Fuel economy]]></category>

    <guid isPermaLink="false">http://gas2.org/?p=575</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/3414/cat/504/sortby/f/sorttime/9999/way/asc" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft" style="margin: 2px;width: 240px;height: 160px;float: left" src="http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/504/801.jpg" alt="" hspace="2" vspace="2" width="240" height="160" align="right" /></a><em>Editor&#8217;s note: There&#8217;s no doubt about it: high gas prices are changing the ways Americans drive (and even causing them choose alternatives to driving).  Our friends at <a href="http://lowimpactliving.com">Low Impact Living</a> take a look today at the most extreme practices of driving with fuel economy in mind: hypermiling. As writer Jason Pelletier points out, some of these tactics involve safety risks&#8230; so be very careful with some of the more aggressive methods. This post was <a href="http://www.lowimpactliving.com/blog/2008/06/05/my-mileage-is-better-than-your-mileage/">originally published</a> on Thursday, June 5, 2008.</em></p>
<p>You may have heard about folks out there who describe themselves as &#8220;hypermilers&#8221;. What is that, you might ask? Well, it&#8217;s basically just someone who gets more out of a gallon of gas than the rest of us. Not a little more, though, but A LOT more - hypermilers can often nearly double the EPA listed mileage for a given car. <a href="http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2007/04/27/hypermiling/" target="_blank">One of the leaders in the hypermiler movement, Wayne Gerdes</a>, can get nearly 60 mpg out of his 2005 Honda Accord (EPA est 34 mpg), and once got 127 mpg out of a Prius (EPA est 42 mpg)!</p>
<p>We all can learn from what they do, for their tips range from things we all should be doing anyway all the way up to the downright crazy / illegal things that it takes to get up into the mileage stratosphere.</p>
<p><!--more-->Some of the easier hypermiling tips and tricks are:</p>
<ol>
<li>driving the speed limit,</li>
<li>making sure your car is tuned and well-lubricated with tires inflated at all times,</li>
<li>performing very gradual stops and starts (or picking routes that don&#8217;t require them at all), and</li>
<li>not using air conditioning.</li>
</ol>
<p>What about some of the more aggressive tactics?</p>
<ul>
<li>Pulling in behind 18-wheelers or other large vehicles and &#8220;draft&#8221; behind them, much as a NASCAR driver will do before passing for the lead. The problem is, this usually puts you in the truck driver&#8217;s blind spot (dumb) and also requires you to tailgate (illegal);</li>
<li>Driving much slower than the speed limit, risking fines for impeding traffic;</li>
<li>Over-inflating tires (reduces surface area in contact with road but increases risk of blowout);</li>
<li>Riding with one set of tires on the white lane markers (reduces friction but risks having a cyclist as a hood ornament);</li>
<li>Shifting into neutral and turning off the car when coasting (dangerous, because it eliminates power steering and brakes), or</li>
<li>Choosing not to drive in areas or at times of high winds (???).</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/5992/cat/522" target="_blank"><img style="width: 198px;height: 149px" src="http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/546/Above2.jpg" alt="Highly Modified Civic" hspace="3" vspace="2" width="198" height="149" align="left" /></a>Clearly, this stuff takes practice, planning, a bit of OCD, and a certain propensity to push the boundaries of legality and safety. Of course, the argument is that saving $ and the planet make it all worthwhile.</p>
<p>For anyone interested in reading more, here are a few good links with tips and descriptions of the hypermiling tricks:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.edmunds.com/advice/fueleconomy/articles/120880/article.html" target="_blank">Edmunds.com has a good summary of the key techniques</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.gasolinecreditcards.com/ecotrekker/" target="_blank">A pretty comprehensive list of hypermiling techniques</a> (on, of all things, a credit card comparison site!);</li>
<li>And, last but certainly not least, the place where it all started, the <a href="http://www.cleanmpg.com/index.php" target="_blank">online forum CleanMPG</a>. <a href="http://www.cleanmpg.com/cmps_index.php?page=hypermiling" target="_blank">This particular post</a> is the motherlode of hypermiling info, and <a href="http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/showgallery.php/cat/522" target="_blank">this link shows photos</a> of the many of the devices and technologies that hypermilers employ.</li>
</ul>
<p>We&#8217;d love to know what you do to improve your gas mileage - please leave some comments!</p>
<h3>Want to Become a Hypermiler or Learn About <a href="http://gas2.org/category/cars/car-hacks-mods/" target="_self">Eco-Modding</a>? Read on&#8230;</h3>
<ul>
<li><a title="Gas 2.0" href="http://gas2.org/2008/05/19/how-to-get-70-mpg-out-of-a-honda-civic/" target="_self">How to Get 70 MPG Out of a Honda Civic</a></li>
<li><a title="Gas 2.0" href="http://gas2.org/2008/03/11/get-120-mpg-out-of-your-prius-plug-it-in/" target="_self">Get 120 MPG Out of Your Prius (Plug It In)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://sustainablog.org/2007/07/25/hypermilers-and-nickels-out-the-window/">Hypermilers and Nickels Out the Window</a></li>
<li><a href="http://gas2.org/2008/05/11/100-ecodriving-tips-to-get-better-mileage-in-your-car/">100+ EcoDriving Tips to get Better Mileage in Your Car</a></li>
<li><a href="http://ecoscraps.com/2008/03/12/100-tips-for-hypermiling/">100 Tips for &#8220;Hypermiling&#8221;</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Image source:</strong> <a href="http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/">CleanMPG.com Photo Gallery</a></p>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[ [1]Editor's note: There's no doubt about it: high gas prices are changing the ways Americans drive (and even causing them choose alternatives to driving).  Our friends at Low Impact Living [2] take a look today at the most extreme practices of driving with fuel economy in mind: hypermiling. As writer Jason Pelletier points out, some of these tactics involve safety risks... so be very careful with some of the more aggressive methods. This post was originally published [3] on Thursday, June 5, 2008.

You may have heard about folks out there who describe themselves as "hypermilers". What is that, you might ask? Well, it's basically just someone who gets more out of a gallon of gas than the rest of us. Not a little more, though, but A LOT more - hypermilers can often nearly double the EPA listed mileage for a given car. One of the leaders in the hypermiler movement, Wayne Gerdes [4], can get nearly 60 mpg out of his 2005 Honda Accord (EPA est 34 mpg), and once got 127 mpg out of a Prius (EPA est 42 mpg)!

We all can learn from what they do, for their tips range from things we all should be doing anyway all the way up to the downright crazy / illegal things that it takes to get up into the mileage stratosphere.

Some of the easier hypermiling tips and tricks are:

	driving the speed limit,
	making sure your car is tuned and well-lubricated with tires inflated at all times,
	performing very gradual stops and starts (or picking routes that don't require them at all), and
	not using air conditioning.

What about some of the more aggressive tactics?

	Pulling in behind 18-wheelers or other large vehicles and "draft" behind them, much as a NASCAR driver will do before passing for the lead. The problem is, this usually puts you in the truck driver's blind spot (dumb) and also requires you to tailgate (illegal);
	Driving much slower than the speed limit, risking fines for impeding traffic;
	Over-inflating tires (reduces surface area in contact with road but increases risk of blowout);
	Riding with one set of tires on the white lane markers (reduces friction but risks having a cyclist as a hood ornament);
	Shifting into neutral and turning off the car when coasting (dangerous, because it eliminates power steering and brakes), or
	Choosing not to drive in areas or at times of high winds (???).

 [5]Clearly, this stuff takes practice, planning, a bit of OCD, and a certain propensity to push the boundaries of legality and safety. Of course, the argument is that saving $ and the planet make it all worthwhile.

For anyone interested in reading more, here are a few good links with tips and descriptions of the hypermiling tricks:

	Edmunds.com has a good summary of the key techniques [6]


	A pretty comprehensive list of hypermiling techniques [7] (on, of all things, a credit card comparison site!);
	And, last but certainly not least, the place where it all started, the online forum CleanMPG [8]. This particular post [9] is the motherlode of hypermiling info, and this link shows photos [10] of the many of the devices and technologies that hypermilers employ.

We'd love to know what you do to improve your gas mileage - please leave some comments!
Want to Become a Hypermiler or Learn About Eco-Modding [11]? Read on...

	How to Get 70 MPG Out of a Honda Civic [12]
	Get 120 MPG Out of Your Prius (Plug It In) [13]
	Hypermilers and Nickels Out the Window [14]
	100+ EcoDriving Tips to get Better Mileage in Your Car [15]
	100 Tips for "Hypermiling" [16]

Image source: CleanMPG.com Photo Gallery [17]

[1] http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/3414/cat/504/sortby/f/sorttime/9999/way/asc
[2] http://lowimpactliving.com
[3] http://www.lowimpactliving.com/blog/2008/06/05/my-mileage-is-better-than-your-mileage/
[4] http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2007/04/27/hypermiling/
[5] http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/5992/cat/522
[6] http://www.edmunds.com/advice/fueleconomy/articles/120880/article.html
[7] http://www.gasolinecreditcards.com/ecotrekker/
[8] http://www.cleanmpg.com/index.php
[9] http://www.cleanmpg.com/cmps_index.php?page=hypermiling
[10] http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/showgallery.php/cat/522
[11] http://gas2.org/category/cars/car-hacks-mods/
[12] http://gas2.org/2008/05/19/how-to-get-70-mpg-out-of-a-honda-civic/
[13] http://gas2.org/2008/03/11/get-120-mpg-out-of-your-prius-plug-it-in/
[14] http://sustainablog.org/2007/07/25/hypermilers-and-nickels-out-the-window/
[15] http://gas2.org/2008/05/11/100-ecodriving-tips-to-get-better-mileage-in-your-car/
[16] http://ecoscraps.com/2008/03/12/100-tips-for-hypermiling/
[17] http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>An Electric Car You Can Buy Today: The $20K TRIAC EV</title>
    <link>http://gas2.org/2008/05/27/an-electric-car-you-can-buy-today-the-20k-triac-ev/</link>
    <comments>http://gas2.org/2008/05/27/an-electric-car-you-can-buy-today-the-20k-triac-ev/#comments</comments>
    <pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Clayton B. Cornell</dc:creator>
    
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    <guid isPermaLink="false">http://gas2.org/2008/05/27/an-electric-car-you-can-buy-today-the-20k-triac-ev/</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[<p> <img src="http://gas2.org/files/2008/05/triacevfront.jpg" alt="TRIAC EV, electric car" align="top" /></p>
<h3>TRIAC Electric Car. Range: 60-100 Miles. Cost: 2 cents per mile</h3>
<p>This little number has been getting some good press lately (see <a href="http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/1673/" title="EcoGeek">EcoGeek</a> and <a href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/" title="Inhabit">Inhabit</a>), and for good reason: it&#8217;s the first <a href="http://gas2.org/2008/04/23/affordable-electric-cars-coming-to-us-in-2009/" title="2009">commercially available electric vehicle</a> with a price tag and functionality that could meet the needs of the average city driver (assuming you can afford it).</p>
<p>OK, you aren&#8217;t going to fit a family of 5 in there, but that&#8217;s not what it&#8217;s made for. <a href="http://www.greenvehicles.com/" title="Green Vehicles">Green Vehicles</a>, manufacturer of the 3-wheeled TRIAC EV, calls it a &#8220;modern freeway commuter,&#8221; because the zero-emissions vehicle can reach 80 mph and will get you into the carpool lane with a single driver. Safety-wise, it has a structural steel cage the company says is the &#8220;same metal skeleton used in race cars&#8221; and a low center of gravity to maintain balance (but surprisingly has no airbags).<!--more--></p>
<p>Back at home, it takes about 6 hours to charge the car&#8217;s lithium-ion batteries at an estimated cost of about 2 cents per mile. Not a bad deal if you can afford the $20,000 price tag. The company website says the TRIAC EV is currently available at dealerships in San Jose and Mill Valley, California, and should be more widely available in the future..</p>
<p>Final thoughts: to me, it looks like they added an extra wheel to a racing bike and built a canopy around it, which makes it a powerful ride but a lot safer (and a lot greener). Generous State/Federal tax credits would put this car within reach for many more drivers, like the $4,000 <a href="http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/tax_ev.shtml" title="FuelEconomy.gov">Federal credit for electric vehicles</a> that ended in 2006.</p>
<p>Want one of these? Check out the <a href="http://www.greenvehicles.com/" title="Green Vehicles">Green Vehicles</a> website.</p>
<p>See more pictures below.</p>
<h3>More Posts on Electric Cars:</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://gas2.org/2008/04/23/affordable-electric-cars-coming-to-us-in-2009/" title="Gas 2.0">Affordable Electric Cars Coming to US in 2009</a></li>
<li><a href="http://gas2.org/2008/05/15/nissan-to-sell-electric-cars-in-us-by-2010/" title="Gas 2.0">Nissan to Sell Electric Cars in US by 2010</a></li>
<li><a href="http://gas2.org/2008/03/20/teslas-first-electric-vehicle-2008-roadster-now-under-production/" title="Gas 2.0">Tesla’s First Electric Vehicle, 2008 Roadster, Now Under Production </a></li>
<li><a href="http://gas2.org/2008/03/12/apteras-26000-electric-car-and-300-mpg-hybrid-coming-soon/" title="Gas 2.0">Aptera’s $26,000 Electric Car and 300 MPG Hybrid Coming Soon </a></li>
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<p><img src="http://gas2.org/files/2008/05/triacevside.jpg" alt="TRIAC EV, electric car" /></p>
<p><img src="http://gas2.org/files/2008/05/triacevrear.jpg" alt="TRIAC EV, electric car" /></p>
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TRIAC Electric Car. Range: 60-100 Miles. Cost: 2 cents per mile
This little number has been getting some good press lately (see EcoGeek [1] and Inhabit [2]), and for good reason: it's the first commercially available electric vehicle [3] with a price tag and functionality that could meet the needs of the average city driver (assuming you can afford it).

OK, you aren't going to fit a family of 5 in there, but that's not what it's made for. Green Vehicles [4], manufacturer of the 3-wheeled TRIAC EV, calls it a "modern freeway commuter," because the zero-emissions vehicle can reach 80 mph and will get you into the carpool lane with a single driver. Safety-wise, it has a structural steel cage the company says is the "same metal skeleton used in race cars" and a low center of gravity to maintain balance (but surprisingly has no airbags).

Back at home, it takes about 6 hours to charge the car's lithium-ion batteries at an estimated cost of about 2 cents per mile. Not a bad deal if you can afford the $20,000 price tag. The company website says the TRIAC EV is currently available at dealerships in San Jose and Mill Valley, California, and should be more widely available in the future..

Final thoughts: to me, it looks like they added an extra wheel to a racing bike and built a canopy around it, which makes it a powerful ride but a lot safer (and a lot greener). Generous State/Federal tax credits would put this car within reach for many more drivers, like the $4,000 Federal credit for electric vehicles [5] that ended in 2006.

Want one of these? Check out the Green Vehicles [4] website.

See more pictures below.
More Posts on Electric Cars:

	Affordable Electric Cars Coming to US in 2009 [7]
	Nissan to Sell Electric Cars in US by 2010 [8]
	Tesla’s First Electric Vehicle, 2008 Roadster, Now Under Production  [9]
	Aptera’s $26,000 Electric Car and 300 MPG Hybrid Coming Soon  [10]





[1] http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/1673/
[2] http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/
[3] http://gas2.org/2008/04/23/affordable-electric-cars-coming-to-us-in-2009/
[4] http://www.greenvehicles.com/
[5] http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/tax_ev.shtml
[6] http://www.greenvehicles.com/
[7] http://gas2.org/2008/04/23/affordable-electric-cars-coming-to-us-in-2009/
[8] http://gas2.org/2008/05/15/nissan-to-sell-electric-cars-in-us-by-2010/
[9] http://gas2.org/2008/03/20/teslas-first-electric-vehicle-2008-roadster-now-under-production/
[10] http://gas2.org/2008/03/12/apteras-26000-electric-car-and-300-mpg-hybrid-coming-soon/]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>DriveSlowly Promotes Slower, More Efficient Driving</title>
    <link>http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/04/19/driveslowly-promotes-slower-more-efficient-driving/</link>
    <comments>http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/04/19/driveslowly-promotes-slower-more-efficient-driving/#comments</comments>
    <pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Philip Proefrock</dc:creator>
    
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<p>Ypsilanti, Michigan is in the outlying suburbs of Detroit and is, itself, a city with a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ypsilanti,_Michigan#Automotive_history">long automotive heritage</a> going back to the Tucker Torpedo and Kaiser Motors and extending to a present day Ford assembly plant and the last Hudson dealership in the country and an Automotive Heritage Museum.  But now, a local couple have embarked on a different direction towards automobiles, encouraging drivers to embrace a new mindset with a website called DriveSlowly, which they are unveiling for Earth Day. <!--more--></p>
<p>Raelyn and Adam Davis created a website to collect information and share stories about doing better by driving more slowly. <a href="http://driveslowly.org">Drive Slowly</a> is a site that offers resources and information about improving vehicle efficiency and decreasing emissions (if you&#8217;re getting better mileage, you&#8217;re automatically putting less CO2 into the atmosphere) and encourages drivers to &#8221; Go slow&#8211; Save Money, Fuel, Earth, Lives.&#8221;</p>
<p>By adopting a more moderate approach to driving, Adam calculated that he is saving more than 85 cents per day (or $200 per year) just in his work commute.  This also means he is averaging 2 MPG better than what he was previously, and he is saving over 1000 pounds of carbon emissions per year.</p>
<p>They write, &#8220;We discovered the economic benefits of slowing down and wanted to share this information. While this is available separately from a variety of sources, we pulled it together into a new comprehensive resource that combined the benefits of slowing down.&#8221;</p>
<p>More at <a href="http://gas2.org/2008/04/19/driveslowly-encourages-more-moderate-speed-for-fuel-savings/">Gas 2.0</a></p>
<p>image source: DriveSlowly.org</p>
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Ypsilanti, Michigan is in the outlying suburbs of Detroit and is, itself, a city with a long automotive heritage [1] going back to the Tucker Torpedo and Kaiser Motors and extending to a present day Ford assembly plant and the last Hudson dealership in the country and an Automotive Heritage Museum.  But now, a local couple have embarked on a different direction towards automobiles, encouraging drivers to embrace a new mindset with a website called DriveSlowly, which they are unveiling for Earth Day. 

Raelyn and Adam Davis created a website to collect information and share stories about doing better by driving more slowly. Drive Slowly [2] is a site that offers resources and information about improving vehicle efficiency and decreasing emissions (if you're getting better mileage, you're automatically putting less CO2 into the atmosphere) and encourages drivers to " Go slow-- Save Money, Fuel, Earth, Lives."

By adopting a more moderate approach to driving, Adam calculated that he is saving more than 85 cents per day (or $200 per year) just in his work commute.  This also means he is averaging 2 MPG better than what he was previously, and he is saving over 1000 pounds of carbon emissions per year.

They write, "We discovered the economic benefits of slowing down and wanted to share this information. While this is available separately from a variety of sources, we pulled it together into a new comprehensive resource that combined the benefits of slowing down."

More at Gas 2.0 [3]

image source: DriveSlowly.org

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ypsilanti,_Michigan#Automotive_history
[2] http://driveslowly.org
[3] http://gas2.org/2008/04/19/driveslowly-encourages-more-moderate-speed-for-fuel-savings/]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>DriveSlowly Encourages More Moderate Speed for Fuel Savings</title>
    <link>http://gas2.org/2008/04/19/driveslowly-encourages-more-moderate-speed-for-fuel-savings/</link>
    <comments>http://gas2.org/2008/04/19/driveslowly-encourages-more-moderate-speed-for-fuel-savings/#comments</comments>
    <pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Philip Proefrock</dc:creator>
    
		<category><![CDATA[Conservation]]></category>

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    <description><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://gas2.org/files/2008/04/driveslowly.jpg" alt="Drive Slowly kid" align="left" /> Despite our hopes and best plans, sometimes we still have to drive.  And while that high-end, high-performance hybrid remains out of our budget, we&#8217;d still like to do better with the vehicles we have.  One way to accomplish that is by just driving a bit more slowly.<!--more--></p>
<p><a href="http://driveslowly.org">Drive Slowly</a> is a site that offers resources and information about improving vehicle efficiency and decreasing emissions (if you&#8217;re getting better mileage, you&#8217;re automatically putting less CO2 into the atmosphere) and encourages drivers to travel a bit more slowly.</p>
<p>Driving a bit more slowly does not seriously change your travel time for most purposes.  The car that passes you going ten miles an hour faster than you are will only get to the exit a minute or two sooner than you will.  And, with trafic light timing, going faster than the planned speed for surface streets often ends up with the fast cars simply racing to wait at the next stop light.  Moderate speeds make sense in many ways, and Drive Slowly helps support this better way of driving for people who do have to drive.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The mission of DriveSlowly.org is to inform and educate drivers on the significant benefits of slowing down. This includes cost savings, reduction in oil consumption and environmental impact of vehicles, and increased safety. DriveSlowly.org also hosts a MPG savings calculator, safety tips, gas pumping tips, and a forum to discuss these topics.</p>
<p>&#8220;Information on DriveSlowly.org includes how to increase your average MPG by 4, save over $200 a year, and decrease carbon dioxide emission from 35.7 pounds per household and other statistics to quantify various benefits of slowing down.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>More info on <a href="http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/04/19/driveslowly-promotes-slower-more-efficient-driving/">EcoLocalizer</a></p>
<p>image source: DriveSlowly.org</p>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[ Despite our hopes and best plans, sometimes we still have to drive.  And while that high-end, high-performance hybrid remains out of our budget, we'd still like to do better with the vehicles we have.  One way to accomplish that is by just driving a bit more slowly.

Drive Slowly [1] is a site that offers resources and information about improving vehicle efficiency and decreasing emissions (if you're getting better mileage, you're automatically putting less CO2 into the atmosphere) and encourages drivers to travel a bit more slowly.

Driving a bit more slowly does not seriously change your travel time for most purposes.  The car that passes you going ten miles an hour faster than you are will only get to the exit a minute or two sooner than you will.  And, with trafic light timing, going faster than the planned speed for surface streets often ends up with the fast cars simply racing to wait at the next stop light.  Moderate speeds make sense in many ways, and Drive Slowly helps support this better way of driving for people who do have to drive.
"The mission of DriveSlowly.org is to inform and educate drivers on the significant benefits of slowing down. This includes cost savings, reduction in oil consumption and environmental impact of vehicles, and increased safety. DriveSlowly.org also hosts a MPG savings calculator, safety tips, gas pumping tips, and a forum to discuss these topics.

"Information on DriveSlowly.org includes how to increase your average MPG by 4, save over $200 a year, and decrease carbon dioxide emission from 35.7 pounds per household and other statistics to quantify various benefits of slowing down."
More info on EcoLocalizer [2]

image source: DriveSlowly.org

[1] http://driveslowly.org
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    <title>Study: Buying Biodiesel May Be A Gamble</title>
    <link>http://gas2.org/2008/03/05/study-buying-biodiesel-may-be-a-gamble/</link>
    <comments>http://gas2.org/2008/03/05/study-buying-biodiesel-may-be-a-gamble/#comments</comments>
    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Clayton B. Cornell</dc:creator>
    
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://gas2.org/files/2008/03/b20pump.jpg" alt="b20 biodiesel pump" align="left" />If you ever buy <a href="http://gas2.org/2008/02/25/6-ways-to-find-and-use-biodiesel-anywhere-part-i/" title="6 Ways To Find And Use Biodiesel Anywhere">retail biodiesel</a> for your diesel vehicle, it turns out you might not be getting exactly what you paid for—or you may be getting quite a bit more.</p>
<p>In a new study, researchers from Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution used highly accurate radiocarbon testing on samples from 20 different biodiesel blenders to determine the biodiesel content of their fuel (so-called &#8220;splash blenders&#8221; mix pure biodiesel and diesel together before selling it at the pump).</p>
<h3><em><strong>The study found that blends sold as B20 <a href="http://gas2.org/2008/04/10/biodiesel-mythbuster-20-twenty-two-biodiesel-myths-dispelled/" title="Biodiesel Mythbuster">biodiesel </a>(20% biodiesel, 80% diesel) varied from 10% to 74% in actual biodiesel content.</strong></em></h3>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a huge problem for the industry,&#8221; says Teresa Alleman of the National  Renewable Energy Laboratory, who recently completed a <a href="http://nbb.grassroots.com/08Releases/NRELstudy/" title="http://nbb.grassroots.com/08Releases/NRELstudy/">study</a>  showing that biodiesel manufacturers have improved the overall quality of pure  biodiesel over the past year. If consumers pay a premium for biodiesel that they  aren&#8217;t getting, she says, public confidence could be shaken. Also, blenders  receive a tax credit based on the amount of biodiesel used, which could mean  some sellers have received larger credits than they merit.</p></blockquote>
<p><!--more-->Not only that, but high blends of biodiesel can freeze up in cold weather, making them a potential liability for some users. Questionable content is not a good thing for the biodiesel industry, but (we hope) it isn&#8217;t as endemic as the study suggests.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s mostly the smaller mom-and-pop retailers that are mixing it themselves&#8221; that have problems, Reddy says. These operations often use a simple method called splash blending, in which biodiesel is poured into regular diesel in a tank or truck. Improper measurement or mixing during splash blending can lead to incorrect blends. In areas where the biodiesel industry is more developed, such as Minnesota where law requires all diesel sold to contain 2% biodiesel, more sophisticated mixing equipment heads off problems. For example, tanker trucks in some places can drive up to a &#8220;rack&#8221; with computer-controlled blending done to order.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is the first time such an accurate testing method has been used to measure biodiesel content. Radiocarbon dating is used to date fossils, and is an effective method here because biodiesel newly derived from plant material has a different carbon signature than ancient petroleum-diesel.</p>
<p><strong>Post Related to <a href="http://gas2.org/2008/04/10/biodiesel-mythbuster-20-twenty-two-biodiesel-myths-dispelled/" title="Biodiesel Mythbuster">Biodiesel</a>:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://gas2.org/2008/04/10/biodiesel-mythbuster-20-twenty-two-biodiesel-myths-dispelled/" title="Biodiesel Mythbuster">Biodiesel Mythbuster 2.0: Twenty-Two Biodiesel Myths Dispelled</a><br />
<a href="http://gas2.org/2008/02/25/6-ways-to-find-and-use-biodiesel-anywhere-part-i/" title="Gas 2.0">6 Ways To Find And Use Biodiesel Anywhere</a><br />
<a href="http://gas2.org/2008/03/04/learn-how-to-make-biodiesel-on-youtube/" title="Gas 2.0">Learn How To Make Biodiesel On YouTube</a><br />
<a href="http://gas2.org/2008/01/09/biodiesel-guide-7-steps-to-buying-a-diesel/" title="Gas 2.0">Biodiesel Guide: 7 Steps to Buying a Diesel </a></p>
<p><strong>Source: </strong>ES&amp;T (Feb. 27, 08): <a href="http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/journals/esthag-w/2008/feb/science/ee_biodiesel.html" title="Environmental Science and Technology">Biodiesel: What&#8217;s in your tank?</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/skidrd/69944802/" title="Flickr"><em>Photo Credit</em></a></p>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[If you ever buy retail biodiesel [1] for your diesel vehicle, it turns out you might not be getting exactly what you paid for—or you may be getting quite a bit more.

In a new study, researchers from Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution used highly accurate radiocarbon testing on samples from 20 different biodiesel blenders to determine the biodiesel content of their fuel (so-called "splash blenders" mix pure biodiesel and diesel together before selling it at the pump).
The study found that blends sold as B20 biodiesel  [2](20% biodiesel, 80% diesel) varied from 10% to 74% in actual biodiesel content.
"It's a huge problem for the industry," says Teresa Alleman of the National  Renewable Energy Laboratory, who recently completed a study [3]  showing that biodiesel manufacturers have improved the overall quality of pure  biodiesel over the past year. If consumers pay a premium for biodiesel that they  aren't getting, she says, public confidence could be shaken. Also, blenders  receive a tax credit based on the amount of biodiesel used, which could mean  some sellers have received larger credits than they merit.
Not only that, but high blends of biodiesel can freeze up in cold weather, making them a potential liability for some users. Questionable content is not a good thing for the biodiesel industry, but (we hope) it isn't as endemic as the study suggests.
"It's mostly the smaller mom-and-pop retailers that are mixing it themselves" that have problems, Reddy says. These operations often use a simple method called splash blending, in which biodiesel is poured into regular diesel in a tank or truck. Improper measurement or mixing during splash blending can lead to incorrect blends. In areas where the biodiesel industry is more developed, such as Minnesota where law requires all diesel sold to contain 2% biodiesel, more sophisticated mixing equipment heads off problems. For example, tanker trucks in some places can drive up to a "rack" with computer-controlled blending done to order.
This is the first time such an accurate testing method has been used to measure biodiesel content. Radiocarbon dating is used to date fossils, and is an effective method here because biodiesel newly derived from plant material has a different carbon signature than ancient petroleum-diesel.

Post Related to Biodiesel [4]:

Biodiesel Mythbuster 2.0: Twenty-Two Biodiesel Myths Dispelled [5]
6 Ways To Find And Use Biodiesel Anywhere [6]
Learn How To Make Biodiesel On YouTube [7]
Biodiesel Guide: 7 Steps to Buying a Diesel  [8]

Source: ES&#38;T (Feb. 27, 08): Biodiesel: What's in your tank? [9]

Photo Credit [10]

[1] http://gas2.org/2008/02/25/6-ways-to-find-and-use-biodiesel-anywhere-part-i/
[2] http://gas2.org/2008/04/10/biodiesel-mythbuster-20-twenty-two-biodiesel-myths-dispelled/
[3] http://nbb.grassroots.com/08Releases/NRELstudy/
[4] http://gas2.org/2008/04/10/biodiesel-mythbuster-20-twenty-two-biodiesel-myths-dispelled/
[5] http://gas2.org/2008/04/10/biodiesel-mythbuster-20-twenty-two-biodiesel-myths-dispelled/
[6] http://gas2.org/2008/02/25/6-ways-to-find-and-use-biodiesel-anywhere-part-i/
[7] http://gas2.org/2008/03/04/learn-how-to-make-biodiesel-on-youtube/
[8] http://gas2.org/2008/01/09/biodiesel-guide-7-steps-to-buying-a-diesel/
[9] http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/journals/esthag-w/2008/feb/science/ee_biodiesel.html
[10] http://www.flickr.com/photos/skidrd/69944802/]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>6 Ways To Find And Use Biodiesel Anywhere (Part II)</title>
    <link>http://gas2.org/2008/02/26/6-ways-to-find-and-use-biodiesel-anywhere-part-ii/</link>
    <comments>http://gas2.org/2008/02/26/6-ways-to-find-and-use-biodiesel-anywhere-part-ii/#comments</comments>
    <pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Clayton B. Cornell</dc:creator>
    
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		<category><![CDATA[Biodiesel Guide]]></category>

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    <description><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://gas2.org/files/2008/02/gaspumpsml.jpg" alt="Biofuel Gas Pump" align="left" border="0" width="126" />The <a href="http://gas2.org/2008/02/25/6-ways-to-find-and-use-biodiesel-anywhere-part-i/">first part of this guide</a> should give you some good resources for finding <a href="http://gas2.org/2008/04/10/biodiesel-mythbuster-20-twenty-two-biodiesel-myths-dispelled/" title="Biodiesel Mythbuster">biodiesel </a>at home and on the road. But don&#8217;t think you have to rely on retail biodiesel to get by. Homemade (aka &#8220;homebrew&#8221;) biodiesel may be available in your area, or you may be inclined to make your own.</p>
<p>While fuel quality obtained by this method can vary considerably, it&#8217;s still possible (even likely) to get fuel that meets national standards. That being said, you may have to get your hands dirty, and this will require a bit more research than finding a local biodiesel pump.</p>
<p>Options 1-3 of this guide are located <a href="http://gas2.org/2008/02/25/6-ways-to-find-and-use-biodiesel-anywhere-part-i/">here</a>.</p>
<h2>4. <a href="http://gas2.org/2008/04/10/biodiesel-mythbuster-20-twenty-two-biodiesel-myths-dispelled/" title="Biodiesel Mythbuster">Biodiesel </a>Coops: Discount Fuel At A Price</h2>
<p><a href="http://www.collectivebiodiesel.org/coops/index.php"><img src="http://gas2.org/files/2008/02/biodieselcoopspage_ed.jpg" alt="Biodiesel Coops" align="left" border="0" /></a> Another option for the intrepid is to join hands with other biodiesel enthusiasts and participate in making the fuel yourself. Biodiesel co-ops pool resources, equipment, and know-how, and may be the best way to learn to make biodiesel. While you don&#8217;t necessarily have to get your hands dirty to participate in a co-op, it can be satisfying work, builds community, and lies at the heart of the biodiesel movement.</p>
<p><!--more-->Joining a co-op usually requires an initiation (not <em>that </em>type of initiation. Say, $40), and sometimes an annual fee. Co-ops tend to either make their own fuel or source it in bulk from a local supplier (the <a href="http://www.biodiesel.org" title="National Biodiesel Board">NBB</a> also has <a href="http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/guide/default.shtm" title="NBB´s guide to buying biodiesel">biodiesel distributor maps</a>). Either way, you usually end up with cheap fuel, (if you don&#8217;t over-value your time) on the order of around $1.50 per gallon. To find more information on your local biodiesel co-op, check out:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.collectivebiodiesel.org/coops/index.php" title="Biodiesel Cooperative Index"><strong>Local Biodiesel Conference&#8217;s Co-op Index (State by State)</strong></a></li>
<li><strong>Try Googling for &#8220;Biodiesel Co-op [State]&#8220;</strong></li>
</ul>
<p>You might also consider asking your local biodiesel retailer (see <a href="http://gas2.org/2008/02/25/6-ways-to-find-and-use-biodiesel-anywhere-part-i/">Part I of this guide</a> to find one) if they know of local co-ops, or talk to the next person you see with a &#8220;<em>Runs On Biodiesel</em>&#8221; bumper-sticker.</p>
<h2>5. Homebrewing: Make Your Own Biodiesel</h2>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0973323337?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=gas20-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0973323337"><img src="http://gas2.org/files/2008/02/biodieselbasicsbook_ed.jpg" alt="Biodiesel Basics and Beyond, Kemp" align="left" border="0" /></a> Nothing beats the empowering feeling of making your own fuel, which could be considered a subversive act of local energy independence.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t take my word for it.</p>
<p>Much has been written on the topic, and while I&#8217;ll revisit the subject in more detail later, if you want to get out there and start making your own biodiesel, take a look at this book, which I consider the homebrew biodiesel bible:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0973323337?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=gas20-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0973323337"><em>Biodiesel, Basics And Beyond: A Comprehensive Guide to Production And Use for the Home And Farm</em></a></li>
</ul>
<p>It will also be worth your time to peruse the information available on the following sites:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong><a href="http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html" title="Journey To Forever">Journey to Forever: Make Your Own Biodiesel</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="http://www.biodieselcommunity.org/" title="Biodiesel Collaborative Tutorial">Collaborative Biodiesel Tutorial</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel" title="Wikipedia">Wikipedia: Biodiesel</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/" title="Biodiesel Forums">Biodiesel Discussion Forums</a></strong></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Warning:</strong> not all biodiesel information is created equal. While forums can be extremely useful for collecting anecdotal (as well as experimental) evidence, they aren&#8217;t always entirely accurate. Use with discretion. Additionally, making biodiesel yourself can be dangerous. Make sure you do your homework.</p>
<h2>6. Finally: Carry A Spare Tank of Biodiesel</h2>
<p><img src="http://gas2.org/files/2008/02/gascansed.jpg" alt="gas cans" align="left" />One of my first trips after switching to biodiesel I loaded two 5-gallon containers of biodiesel into the back of my truck, determined not to use diesel on the 500-mile trip (I did, eventually). But depending on space and weight considerations (you&#8217;re looking at 40 lbs), an extra 5 gallons can make all the difference, especially when blending your own fuel in cold weather*.</p>
<p>If you end up at a station with no biodiesel and you have a long way to go, or you&#8217;re mixing biodiesel for cold weather, you can blend your own biodiesel (splash blend) by partly filling your tank with diesel and then adding biodiesel. Biodiesel is slightly denser then diesel, so make sure to add it first.</p>
<p>Five gallons of spare fuel in a diesel Jetta should get you something like 250 miles. If you&#8217;ve got a truck, you also have the option of acquiring a spare fuel tank for the bed (avg. 55 gallons), and loading up with spare biodiesel before you hit the road.</p>
<p><em>*For more information on biodiesel cold-weather issues, see the <a href="http://claytonbodiecornell.greenoptions.com/2007/04/05/green-myth-busting-biodiesel/">Biodiesel Mythbuster.</a></em></p>
<h2>Conclusion: Energy Independence</h2>
<p><img src="http://gas2.org/files/2008/02/openroad.jpg" alt="Open Road" align="left" />So there you go, it&#8217;s not as hard as you thought to consistently use biodiesel, even while on the road. If you have more questions about the fuel, feel free to comment, or you can wait for the Biodiesel Mythbuster version 2.0 I&#8217;ll be publishing in the next month or so.</p>
<p>Still need a diesel vehicle? Jump back to Part I of the Biodiesel Guide: <a href="http://gas2.org/2008/01/09/biodiesel-guide-7-steps-to-buying-a-diesel/">7 Steps To Buying A Diesel.</a></p>
<p>Missed Part I of this post (Steps 1-3)? Click <a href="http://gas2.org/2008/02/25/6-ways-to-find-and-use-biodiesel-anywhere-part-i/">here.</a></p>
<p>The next part of this series will include myths and fact about biodiesel, warranty issues, and how to &#8220;convert&#8221; a diesel to run on biodiesel.</p>
<p><strong>Related Posts:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://gas2.org/2008/04/10/biodiesel-mythbuster-20-twenty-two-biodiesel-myths-dispelled/" title="Biodiesel Mythbuster 2.0: 22 Biodiesel Myths Dispelled">Biodiesel Mythbuster 2.0: Twenty-Two Biodiesel Myths Dispelled</a><br />
<a href="http://gas2.org/wp-admin/Biodiesel,%20Anyone" title="http://gas2.org/2008/02/14/germans-release-117-mpg-diesel-sportscar-biodiesel-anyone/">Germans Release 117 MPG Diesel Sportscar: Biodiesel, Anyone?</a><br />
<a href="http://gas2.org/wp-admin/What%20Will%20Your%20Next%20Used%20Car%20Be" title="http://gas2.org/2008/02/14/what-will-your-next-used-car-be/">What Will Your Next Used Car Be?</a><br />
<a href="http://gas2.org/wp-admin/The%20Growing%20Need%20for%20Fuel%20Substitution,%20Efficiency,%20and%20Conservation" title="http://gas2.org/2008/01/25/the-growing-need-for-fuel-substitution-efficiency-and-conservation/">The Growing Need for Fuel Substitution, Efficiency, and Conservation </a></p>
<p><em>Photo Credits:<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bargas/95137990/">1</a>, <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/erikogan/110360004/">2</a></em></p>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[The first part of this guide [1] should give you some good resources for finding biodiesel  [2]at home and on the road. But don't think you have to rely on retail biodiesel to get by. Homemade (aka "homebrew") biodiesel may be available in your area, or you may be inclined to make your own.

While fuel quality obtained by this method can vary considerably, it's still possible (even likely) to get fuel that meets national standards. That being said, you may have to get your hands dirty, and this will require a bit more research than finding a local biodiesel pump.

Options 1-3 of this guide are located here [3].
4. Biodiesel  [4]Coops: Discount Fuel At A Price
 [5] Another option for the intrepid is to join hands with other biodiesel enthusiasts and participate in making the fuel yourself. Biodiesel co-ops pool resources, equipment, and know-how, and may be the best way to learn to make biodiesel. While you don't necessarily have to get your hands dirty to participate in a co-op, it can be satisfying work, builds community, and lies at the heart of the biodiesel movement.

Joining a co-op usually requires an initiation (not that type of initiation. Say, $40), and sometimes an annual fee. Co-ops tend to either make their own fuel or source it in bulk from a local supplier (the NBB [6] also has biodiesel distributor maps [7]). Either way, you usually end up with cheap fuel, (if you don't over-value your time) on the order of around $1.50 per gallon. To find more information on your local biodiesel co-op, check out:

	Local Biodiesel Conference's Co-op Index (State by State) [8]
	Try Googling for "Biodiesel Co-op [State]"

You might also consider asking your local biodiesel retailer (see Part I of this guide [9] to find one) if they know of local co-ops, or talk to the next person you see with a "Runs On Biodiesel" bumper-sticker.
5. Homebrewing: Make Your Own Biodiesel
 [10] Nothing beats the empowering feeling of making your own fuel, which could be considered a subversive act of local energy independence.

But don't take my word for it.

Much has been written on the topic, and while I'll revisit the subject in more detail later, if you want to get out there and start making your own biodiesel, take a look at this book, which I consider the homebrew biodiesel bible:

	Biodiesel, Basics And Beyond: A Comprehensive Guide to Production And Use for the Home And Farm [11]

It will also be worth your time to peruse the information available on the following sites:

	Journey to Forever: Make Your Own Biodiesel [12]
	Collaborative Biodiesel Tutorial [13]
	Wikipedia: Biodiesel [14]
	Biodiesel Discussion Forums [15]

Warning: not all biodiesel information is created equal. While forums can be extremely useful for collecting anecdotal (as well as experimental) evidence, they aren't always entirely accurate. Use with discretion. Additionally, making biodiesel yourself can be dangerous. Make sure you do your homework.
6. Finally: Carry A Spare Tank of Biodiesel
One of my first trips after switching to biodiesel I loaded two 5-gallon containers of biodiesel into the back of my truck, determined not to use diesel on the 500-mile trip (I did, eventually). But depending on space and weight considerations (you're looking at 40 lbs), an extra 5 gallons can make all the difference, especially when blending your own fuel in cold weather*.

If you end up at a station with no biodiesel and you have a long way to go, or you're mixing biodiesel for cold weather, you can blend your own biodiesel (splash blend) by partly filling your tank with diesel and then adding biodiesel. Biodiesel is slightly denser then diesel, so make sure to add it first.

Five gallons of spare fuel in a diesel Jetta should get you something like 250 miles. If you've got a truck, you also have the option of acquiring a spare fuel tank for the bed (avg. 55 gallons), and loading up with spare biodiesel before you hit the road.

*For more information on biodiesel cold-weather issues, see the Biodiesel Mythbuster. [16]
Conclusion: Energy Independence
So there you go, it's not as hard as you thought to consistently use biodiesel, even while on the road. If you have more questions about the fuel, feel free to comment, or you can wait for the Biodiesel Mythbuster version 2.0 I'll be publishing in the next month or so.

Still need a diesel vehicle? Jump back to Part I of the Biodiesel Guide: 7 Steps To Buying A Diesel. [17]

Missed Part I of this post (Steps 1-3)? Click here. [18]

The next part of this series will include myths and fact about biodiesel, warranty issues, and how to "convert" a diesel to run on biodiesel.

Related Posts:

Biodiesel Mythbuster 2.0: Twenty-Two Biodiesel Myths Dispelled [19]
Germans Release 117 MPG Diesel Sportscar: Biodiesel, Anyone? [20]
What Will Your Next Used Car Be? [21]
The Growing Need for Fuel Substitution, Efficiency, and Conservation  [22]

Photo Credits:1 [23], 2 [24]

[1] http://gas2.org/2008/02/25/6-ways-to-find-and-use-biodiesel-anywhere-part-i/
[2] http://gas2.org/2008/04/10/biodiesel-mythbuster-20-twenty-two-biodiesel-myths-dispelled/
[3] http://gas2.org/2008/02/25/6-ways-to-find-and-use-biodiesel-anywhere-part-i/
[4] http://gas2.org/2008/04/10/biodiesel-mythbuster-20-twenty-two-biodiesel-myths-dispelled/
[5] http://www.collectivebiodiesel.org/coops/index.php
[6] http://www.biodiesel.org
[7] http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/guide/default.shtm
[8] http://www.collectivebiodiesel.org/coops/index.php
[9] http://gas2.org/2008/02/25/6-ways-to-find-and-use-biodiesel-anywhere-part-i/
[10] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0973323337?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=gas20-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=9325&#38;creativeASIN=0973323337
[11] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0973323337?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=gas20-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=9325&#38;creativeASIN=0973323337
[12] http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html
[13] http://www.biodieselcommunity.org/
[14] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel
[15] http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/
[16] http://claytonbodiecornell.greenoptions.com/2007/04/05/green-myth-busting-biodiesel/
[17] http://gas2.org/2008/01/09/biodiesel-guide-7-steps-to-buying-a-diesel/
[18] http://gas2.org/2008/02/25/6-ways-to-find-and-use-biodiesel-anywhere-part-i/
[19] http://gas2.org/2008/04/10/biodiesel-mythbuster-20-twenty-two-biodiesel-myths-dispelled/
[20] http://gas2.org/wp-admin/Biodiesel,%20Anyone
[21] http://gas2.org/wp-admin/What%20Will%20Your%20Next%20Used%20Car%20Be
[22] http://gas2.org/wp-admin/The%20Growing%20Need%20for%20Fuel%20Substitution,%20Efficiency,%20and%20Conservation
[23] http://www.flickr.com/photos/bargas/95137990/
[24] http://www.flickr.com/photos/erikogan/110360004/]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>6 Ways To Find And Use Biodiesel Anywhere (Part I)</title>
    <link>http://gas2.org/2008/02/25/6-ways-to-find-and-use-biodiesel-anywhere-part-i/</link>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 05:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Clayton B. Cornell</dc:creator>
    
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		<category><![CDATA[Biodiesel Guide]]></category>

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    <description><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://gas2.org/files/2008/02/gaspumpsml.jpg" alt="Biofuel Gas Pump" align="left" />Looking to find a source of <a href="http://gas2.org/2008/04/10/biodiesel-mythbuster-20-twenty-two-biodiesel-myths-dispelled/" title="Biodiesel Mythbuster 2.0: 22 Biodiesel Myths Dispelled">biodiesel</a>? Perhaps you followed my previous post, <a href="http://gas2.org/2008/01/09/biodiesel-guide-7-steps-to-buying-a-diesel/" title="7 Steps To Buying A Diesel"><em>7 Steps To Buying A Diesel</em></a>, or maybe you already have a vehicle and feel it&#8217;s time to boycott OPEC oil. Either way, this guide will help you figure out how to get from <strong>A</strong> to <strong>B</strong> exclusively on biodiesel. Part II (options 4-6) of this post can be found <a href="http://gas2.org/2008/02/26/6-ways-to-find-and-use-biodiesel-anywhere-part-ii/">here</a>.</p>
<p>Remember that biodiesel can be used in any diesel engine (warranty issues aside) without modification. The only conversion necessary is where you decide to fill up, and that&#8217;s what this guide is intended to supplement. One caveat: be advised that biodiesel use can be tricky in cold weather, and depending on location and season you may have to drop to a 50% or even 20% biodiesel blend (more on that later). Without further ado:</p>
<h2>1. At Home: Find <a href="http://gas2.org/2008/04/10/biodiesel-mythbuster-20-twenty-two-biodiesel-myths-dispelled/" title="Biodiesel Mythbuster">Biodiesel </a>At Retail Gas Stations</h2>
<p><a href="http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/retailfuelingsites/default.shtm"><img src="http://gas2.org/files/2008/03/nbb-fuel-map.jpg" alt="nbb-fuel-map.jpg" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>Without your knowledge, a local retail station may already have converted one of their pumps to some blend of biodiesel. The most common blend is B20 (20% biodiesel, 80% diesel), but don&#8217;t be surprised to see &#8220;biodiesel stations&#8221; with a lowly 5% blend (B5). (Stations now commonly offer B5 to confer lubricity lost by the introduction of Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel - ULSD.)</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re lucky, you may even find a B100 pump nearby, but there are other ways to get pure (aka <em>neat</em>) biodiesel (see below). You can find a list of retail biodiesel stations at both the <a href="http://www.biodiesel.org/" title="National Biodiesel Board">National Biodiesel Board&#8217;s website</a>, and <a href="http://www.nearbio.com/" title="NearBio.com">NearBio.com</a>:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/retailfuelingsites/default.shtm" title="biodiesel.org Retail Fueling Sites"><strong>NBB&#8217;s Map of Retail Biodiesel Refueling Sites</strong></a><strong> </strong></li>
<li><a href="http://www.nearbio.com/nearbio/mapper.php" title="Nearbio.com Retail Refueling Sites"><strong>NearBio&#8217;s Map of Retail Biodiesel Refueling Sites</strong></a></li>
</ul>
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<h2>2. On The Road: Route-Map Retail Biodiesel</h2>
<p><a href="http://gasprices.mapquest.com/index.jsp"><img src="http://gas2.org/files/2008/02/mapquestmap194.JPG" alt="mapquestaltfuel" border="0" height="178" width="228" /></a></p>
<p>While it&#8217;s great to have a biodiesel pump in your area, what about hitting the road? Since the <em>biodiesel conversion</em> doesn&#8217;t really change your engine, you can always revert to regular diesel fuel, although no one wants to do that after making a commitment to eschew petroleum.</p>
<p>Fortunately, both Mapquest and Google Maps now show biodie